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xdp generic default option

Message ID 20200819092811.GA2420@lore-desk
State RFC
Delegated to: BPF Maintainers
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Lorenzo Bianconi Aug. 19, 2020, 9:28 a.m. UTC
Hi Andrii,

working on xdp multi-buff I figured out now xdp generic is the default choice
if not specified by userspace. In particular after commit 7f0a838254bd
("bpf, xdp: Maintain info on attached XDP BPF programs in net_device"), running
the command below, XDP will run in generic mode even if the underlay driver
support XDP in native mode:

$ip link set dev eth0 xdp obj prog.o
$ip link show dev eth0
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 xdpgeneric qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT
   group default qlen 1024
   link/ether f0:ad:4e:09:6b:57 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
   prog/xdp id 1 tag 3b185187f1855c4c jited 

Is it better to use xdpdrv as default choice if not specified by userspace?
doing something like:


Regards,
Lorenzo

Comments

Toke Høiland-Jørgensen Aug. 19, 2020, 2:39 p.m. UTC | #1
Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org> writes:

> Hi Andrii,
>
> working on xdp multi-buff I figured out now xdp generic is the default choice
> if not specified by userspace. In particular after commit 7f0a838254bd
> ("bpf, xdp: Maintain info on attached XDP BPF programs in net_device"), running
> the command below, XDP will run in generic mode even if the underlay driver
> support XDP in native mode:
>
> $ip link set dev eth0 xdp obj prog.o
> $ip link show dev eth0
> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 xdpgeneric qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT
>    group default qlen 1024
>    link/ether f0:ad:4e:09:6b:57 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>    prog/xdp id 1 tag 3b185187f1855c4c jited

Yeah, defaulting to xdpgeneric is not a good idea (and a change in
behaviour; I get native mode on the same command on a 5.8 kernel)...

-Toke
Jakub Kicinski Aug. 19, 2020, 7:07 p.m. UTC | #2
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:28:11 +0200 Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
> Hi Andrii,
> 
> working on xdp multi-buff I figured out now xdp generic is the default choice
> if not specified by userspace. In particular after commit 7f0a838254bd
> ("bpf, xdp: Maintain info on attached XDP BPF programs in net_device"), running
> the command below, XDP will run in generic mode even if the underlay driver
> support XDP in native mode:

Make me wonder if bpf/test_offload.py was ever run on those changes :/
Andrii Nakryiko Aug. 19, 2020, 8:57 p.m. UTC | #3
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 2:29 AM Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrii,
>
> working on xdp multi-buff I figured out now xdp generic is the default choice
> if not specified by userspace. In particular after commit 7f0a838254bd
> ("bpf, xdp: Maintain info on attached XDP BPF programs in net_device"), running
> the command below, XDP will run in generic mode even if the underlay driver
> support XDP in native mode:
>
> $ip link set dev eth0 xdp obj prog.o
> $ip link show dev eth0
> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 xdpgeneric qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT
>    group default qlen 1024
>    link/ether f0:ad:4e:09:6b:57 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>    prog/xdp id 1 tag 3b185187f1855c4c jited
>
> Is it better to use xdpdrv as default choice if not specified by userspace?
> doing something like:
>
> diff --git a/net/core/dev.c b/net/core/dev.c
> index a00aa737ce29..1f85880ee412 100644
> --- a/net/core/dev.c
> +++ b/net/core/dev.c
> @@ -8747,9 +8747,9 @@ static enum bpf_xdp_mode dev_xdp_mode(u32 flags)
>  {
>         if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_HW_MODE)
>                 return XDP_MODE_HW;
> -       if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_DRV_MODE)
> -               return XDP_MODE_DRV;
> -       return XDP_MODE_SKB;
> +       if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_SKB_MODE)
> +               return XDP_MODE_SKB;
> +       return XDP_MODE_DRV;
>  }
>

I think the better way would be to choose XDP_MODE_DRV if ndo_bpf !=
NULL and XDP_MODE_SKB otherwise. That seems to be matching original
behavior, no?

It was not my intent to change the behavior, sorry about that. I'll
post patch a bit later today.


>  static bpf_op_t dev_xdp_bpf_op(struct net_device *dev, enum bpf_xdp_mode mode)
>
> Regards,
> Lorenzo
Jesper Dangaard Brouer Aug. 20, 2020, 8:25 a.m. UTC | #4
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 13:57:51 -0700
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 2:29 AM Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andrii,
> >
> > working on xdp multi-buff I figured out now xdp generic is the default choice
> > if not specified by userspace. In particular after commit 7f0a838254bd
> > ("bpf, xdp: Maintain info on attached XDP BPF programs in net_device"), running
> > the command below, XDP will run in generic mode even if the underlay driver
> > support XDP in native mode:
> >
> > $ip link set dev eth0 xdp obj prog.o
> > $ip link show dev eth0
> > 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 xdpgeneric qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT
> >    group default qlen 1024
> >    link/ether f0:ad:4e:09:6b:57 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> >    prog/xdp id 1 tag 3b185187f1855c4c jited
> >
> > Is it better to use xdpdrv as default choice if not specified by userspace?
> > doing something like:
> >
> > diff --git a/net/core/dev.c b/net/core/dev.c
> > index a00aa737ce29..1f85880ee412 100644
> > --- a/net/core/dev.c
> > +++ b/net/core/dev.c
> > @@ -8747,9 +8747,9 @@ static enum bpf_xdp_mode dev_xdp_mode(u32 flags)
> >  {
> >         if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_HW_MODE)
> >                 return XDP_MODE_HW;
> > -       if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_DRV_MODE)
> > -               return XDP_MODE_DRV;
> > -       return XDP_MODE_SKB;
> > +       if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_SKB_MODE)
> > +               return XDP_MODE_SKB;
> > +       return XDP_MODE_DRV;
> >  }
> >  
> 
> I think the better way would be to choose XDP_MODE_DRV if ndo_bpf !=
> NULL and XDP_MODE_SKB otherwise. That seems to be matching original
> behavior, no?

Yes, but this silent fallback to XDP_MODE_SKB (generic-XDP) have
cause a lot of support issues in the past.  I wish we could change it.
We already changed all the samples/bpf/ to ask for XDP_FLAGS_DRV_MODE,
so they behave this way.

d50ecc46d18f ("samples/bpf: Attach XDP programs in driver mode by default")
 https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/c/d50ecc46d18fa

> It was not my intent to change the behavior, sorry about that. I'll
> post patch a bit later today.
David Ahern Aug. 20, 2020, 2 p.m. UTC | #5
On 8/20/20 2:25 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>>> diff --git a/net/core/dev.c b/net/core/dev.c
>>> index a00aa737ce29..1f85880ee412 100644
>>> --- a/net/core/dev.c
>>> +++ b/net/core/dev.c
>>> @@ -8747,9 +8747,9 @@ static enum bpf_xdp_mode dev_xdp_mode(u32 flags)
>>>  {
>>>         if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_HW_MODE)
>>>                 return XDP_MODE_HW;
>>> -       if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_DRV_MODE)
>>> -               return XDP_MODE_DRV;
>>> -       return XDP_MODE_SKB;
>>> +       if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_SKB_MODE)
>>> +               return XDP_MODE_SKB;
>>> +       return XDP_MODE_DRV;
>>>  }
>>>  
>>
>> I think the better way would be to choose XDP_MODE_DRV if ndo_bpf !=
>> NULL and XDP_MODE_SKB otherwise. That seems to be matching original
>> behavior, no?
> 
> Yes, but this silent fallback to XDP_MODE_SKB (generic-XDP) have
> cause a lot of support issues in the past.  I wish we could change it.
> We already changed all the samples/bpf/ to ask for XDP_FLAGS_DRV_MODE,
> so they behave this way.
> 

I would prefer the flags check in Lorenzo's proposed patch which is an
explicit opt in to the SKB mode.
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Patch

diff --git a/net/core/dev.c b/net/core/dev.c
index a00aa737ce29..1f85880ee412 100644
--- a/net/core/dev.c
+++ b/net/core/dev.c
@@ -8747,9 +8747,9 @@  static enum bpf_xdp_mode dev_xdp_mode(u32 flags)
 {
 	if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_HW_MODE)
 		return XDP_MODE_HW;
-	if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_DRV_MODE)
-		return XDP_MODE_DRV;
-	return XDP_MODE_SKB;
+	if (flags & XDP_FLAGS_SKB_MODE)
+		return XDP_MODE_SKB;
+	return XDP_MODE_DRV;
 }
 
 static bpf_op_t dev_xdp_bpf_op(struct net_device *dev, enum bpf_xdp_mode mode)