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[V2,1/2] Documentation: DT: Add binding documentation for NVIDIA ADMA

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Jon Hunter Oct. 5, 2015, 12:10 p.m. UTC
Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
controller.

Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
---
 .../devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt      | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 63 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt

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Mark Rutland Oct. 5, 2015, 1:12 p.m. UTC | #1
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 01:10:06PM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
> controller.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  .../devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt      | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 63 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..df0e46868a63
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
> +* NVIDIA Tegra Audio DMA (ADMA) controller
> +
> +Required properties:
> +- compatible: Must be "nvidia,tegra210-adma".
> +- reg: Should contain DMA registers location and length. This should be
> +  a single entry that includes all of the per-channel registers in one
> +  contiguous bank.
> +- interrupt-parent: Phandle to the interrupt parent controller.
> +- interrupts: Should contain all of the per-channel DMA interrupts in
> +  ascending order with respect to the DMA channel index.
> +- clocks: Must contain one entry for the ADMA module clock, "adma_ape".
> +- clock-names: Must contain the entry "adma_ape".
> +- dma-channels: Must be 22. Defines the number of DMA channels supported
> +  by the DMA controller.

If this has to be a fixed value, why is it necessary? Why does the
driver not just know this?

Are there other instances of this IP block where this differs?

> +- dma-rx-requests: Must be 10. Defines the number of receive request
> +  signals supported by the DMA controller.
> +- dma-tx-requests: Must be 10. Defines the number of transmit request
> +  signals supported by the DMA controller.

Likewise for these two?

Mark.

> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum number
> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes whether
> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2 for
> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values correspond
> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
> +
> +
> +Example:
> +
> +adma: adma@702e2000 {
> +	compatible = "nvidia,tegra210-adma";
> +	reg = <0x0 0x702e2000 0x0 0x2000>;
> +	interrupt-parent = <&tegra_agic>;
> +	interrupts = <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT0 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT1 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT2 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT3 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT4 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT5 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT6 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT7 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT8 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT9 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT10 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT11 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT12 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT13 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT14 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT15 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT16 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT17 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT18 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT19 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT20 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
> +		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT21 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> +	clocks = <&tegra_car TEGRA210_CLK_ADMA_APE>;
> +	clock-names = "adma_ape";
> +	dma-channels = <22>;
> +	dma-rx-requests = <10>;
> +	dma-tx-requests = <10>;
> +	#dma-cells = <2>;
> +};
> -- 
> 2.1.4
> 
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Jon Hunter Oct. 6, 2015, 9:16 a.m. UTC | #2
On 05/10/15 14:12, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 01:10:06PM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>> controller.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
>> ---
>>  .../devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt      | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 63 insertions(+)
>>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..df0e46868a63
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>> @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
>> +* NVIDIA Tegra Audio DMA (ADMA) controller
>> +
>> +Required properties:
>> +- compatible: Must be "nvidia,tegra210-adma".
>> +- reg: Should contain DMA registers location and length. This should be
>> +  a single entry that includes all of the per-channel registers in one
>> +  contiguous bank.
>> +- interrupt-parent: Phandle to the interrupt parent controller.
>> +- interrupts: Should contain all of the per-channel DMA interrupts in
>> +  ascending order with respect to the DMA channel index.
>> +- clocks: Must contain one entry for the ADMA module clock, "adma_ape".
>> +- clock-names: Must contain the entry "adma_ape".
>> +- dma-channels: Must be 22. Defines the number of DMA channels supported
>> +  by the DMA controller.
> 
> If this has to be a fixed value, why is it necessary? Why does the
> driver not just know this?
> 
> Are there other instances of this IP block where this differs?

So this will change for future devices and yes it may seem silly now to
have something that fixed and appears to be constant but I was trying to
future proof the binding. May be the comment should read "For tegra210
must be 22", however, I thought the compatible string would imply this.

>> +- dma-rx-requests: Must be 10. Defines the number of receive request
>> +  signals supported by the DMA controller.
>> +- dma-tx-requests: Must be 10. Defines the number of transmit request
>> +  signals supported by the DMA controller.
> 
> Likewise for these two?

For these I am not sure if they will change in the future and so yes I
could simply place these in the driver. The register would need to
change in the future for these to change and so that would mean that the
driver would need to be updated. So may be this does not make sense.

Cheers
Jon
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Stephen Warren Oct. 6, 2015, 10:57 p.m. UTC | #3
On 10/06/2015 03:16 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
> On 05/10/15 14:12, Mark Rutland wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 01:10:06PM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>>> controller.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
>>> ---
>>>   .../devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt      | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>   1 file changed, 63 insertions(+)
>>>   create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>> new file mode 100644
>>> index 000000000000..df0e46868a63
>>> --- /dev/null
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
>>> +* NVIDIA Tegra Audio DMA (ADMA) controller
>>> +
>>> +Required properties:
>>> +- compatible: Must be "nvidia,tegra210-adma".
>>> +- reg: Should contain DMA registers location and length. This should be
>>> +  a single entry that includes all of the per-channel registers in one
>>> +  contiguous bank.
>>> +- interrupt-parent: Phandle to the interrupt parent controller.
>>> +- interrupts: Should contain all of the per-channel DMA interrupts in
>>> +  ascending order with respect to the DMA channel index.
>>> +- clocks: Must contain one entry for the ADMA module clock, "adma_ape".
>>> +- clock-names: Must contain the entry "adma_ape".
>>> +- dma-channels: Must be 22. Defines the number of DMA channels supported
>>> +  by the DMA controller.
>>
>> If this has to be a fixed value, why is it necessary? Why does the
>> driver not just know this?
>>
>> Are there other instances of this IP block where this differs?
>
> So this will change for future devices and yes it may seem silly now to
> have something that fixed and appears to be constant but I was trying to
> future proof the binding. May be the comment should read "For tegra210
> must be 22", however, I thought the compatible string would imply this.

Typically you'd want a table in the driver that maps from compatible 
value to the set of per-SoC data that's associated with the compatible 
value. Then, you don't need to put this data into the DT.

Even if you don't want to do that (e.g. so the driver can work on future 
HW without code changes), then you can always add this property in the 
future if needed; if the property is present the value in it will be 
used, but if missing, any driver should default to the value in use 
for/on HW  before the binding update.
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Stephen Warren Oct. 6, 2015, 11:04 p.m. UTC | #4
On 10/05/2015 06:10 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
> controller.

> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt

> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum number
> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes whether
> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2 for
> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values correspond
> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.

Is it typical to encode the direction into the dma cells? I would have 
thought the client would provide that information at run-time when 
requesting a DMA channel.
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Jon Hunter Oct. 7, 2015, 8:43 a.m. UTC | #5
On 07/10/15 00:04, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/05/2015 06:10 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>> controller.
> 
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
> 
>> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
>> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum number
>> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
>> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
>> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes whether
>> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2 for
>> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values
>> correspond
>> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
> 
> Is it typical to encode the direction into the dma cells? I would have
> thought the client would provide that information at run-time when
> requesting a DMA channel.

I have seen other dma bindings that do [0]. If we don't put the
direction in the client binding, then it would appear as ...

tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
    ...
    dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
           <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
           <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
           <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
           <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
    dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
                "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
                "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
                "rx10", "tx10";
    ...
};

... where "rxN" and "txN" appear to use the same request, but the
reality is that "rxN" is using rx-request-N and "txN" is using
tx-request-N. Arnd questioned this before. Obviously I can explain this
in the binding document if the above is preferred. However, given that
they are named "rx1", "rx2", etc, why not put the direction in the binding?

By the way, in the ADMA driver, the driver does check that the direction
specified when configuring the transfer (ie. via
tegra_adma_prep_dma_cyclic()) matches the adma channel being used.

Cheers
Jon

[0]
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/ste-dma40.txt
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Jon Hunter Oct. 7, 2015, 3:26 p.m. UTC | #6
On 06/10/15 23:57, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/06/2015 03:16 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>
>> On 05/10/15 14:12, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 01:10:06PM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>>>> controller.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>   .../devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt      | 63
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   1 file changed, 63 insertions(+)
>>>>   create mode 100644
>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>> index 000000000000..df0e46868a63
>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
>>>> +* NVIDIA Tegra Audio DMA (ADMA) controller
>>>> +
>>>> +Required properties:
>>>> +- compatible: Must be "nvidia,tegra210-adma".
>>>> +- reg: Should contain DMA registers location and length. This
>>>> should be
>>>> +  a single entry that includes all of the per-channel registers in one
>>>> +  contiguous bank.
>>>> +- interrupt-parent: Phandle to the interrupt parent controller.
>>>> +- interrupts: Should contain all of the per-channel DMA interrupts in
>>>> +  ascending order with respect to the DMA channel index.
>>>> +- clocks: Must contain one entry for the ADMA module clock,
>>>> "adma_ape".
>>>> +- clock-names: Must contain the entry "adma_ape".
>>>> +- dma-channels: Must be 22. Defines the number of DMA channels
>>>> supported
>>>> +  by the DMA controller.
>>>
>>> If this has to be a fixed value, why is it necessary? Why does the
>>> driver not just know this?
>>>
>>> Are there other instances of this IP block where this differs?
>>
>> So this will change for future devices and yes it may seem silly now to
>> have something that fixed and appears to be constant but I was trying to
>> future proof the binding. May be the comment should read "For tegra210
>> must be 22", however, I thought the compatible string would imply this.
> 
> Typically you'd want a table in the driver that maps from compatible
> value to the set of per-SoC data that's associated with the compatible
> value. Then, you don't need to put this data into the DT.

Yes I have seen that which I was not sure that I was a fan of, given
that we have DT and its purpose is to describe the hardware. So may be
the problem I have is deciding on which hardware parameters should be
described in DT versus those that should be place in the driver itself.
I am not sure if there is a rule of thumb for this type of thing?

Cheers
Jon
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Stephen Warren Oct. 7, 2015, 4:05 p.m. UTC | #7
On 10/07/2015 09:26 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
> On 06/10/15 23:57, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 10/06/2015 03:16 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>> On 05/10/15 14:12, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 01:10:06PM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>>>>> controller.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>    .../devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt      | 63
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>    1 file changed, 63 insertions(+)
>>>>>    create mode 100644
>>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>>> index 000000000000..df0e46868a63
>>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
>>>>> +* NVIDIA Tegra Audio DMA (ADMA) controller
>>>>> +
>>>>> +Required properties:
>>>>> +- compatible: Must be "nvidia,tegra210-adma".
>>>>> +- reg: Should contain DMA registers location and length. This
>>>>> should be
>>>>> +  a single entry that includes all of the per-channel registers in one
>>>>> +  contiguous bank.
>>>>> +- interrupt-parent: Phandle to the interrupt parent controller.
>>>>> +- interrupts: Should contain all of the per-channel DMA interrupts in
>>>>> +  ascending order with respect to the DMA channel index.
>>>>> +- clocks: Must contain one entry for the ADMA module clock,
>>>>> "adma_ape".
>>>>> +- clock-names: Must contain the entry "adma_ape".
>>>>> +- dma-channels: Must be 22. Defines the number of DMA channels
>>>>> supported
>>>>> +  by the DMA controller.
>>>>
>>>> If this has to be a fixed value, why is it necessary? Why does the
>>>> driver not just know this?
>>>>
>>>> Are there other instances of this IP block where this differs?
>>>
>>> So this will change for future devices and yes it may seem silly now to
>>> have something that fixed and appears to be constant but I was trying to
>>> future proof the binding. May be the comment should read "For tegra210
>>> must be 22", however, I thought the compatible string would imply this.
>>
>> Typically you'd want a table in the driver that maps from compatible
>> value to the set of per-SoC data that's associated with the compatible
>> value. Then, you don't need to put this data into the DT.
>
> Yes I have seen that which I was not sure that I was a fan of, given
> that we have DT and its purpose is to describe the hardware. So may be
> the problem I have is deciding on which hardware parameters should be
> described in DT versus those that should be place in the driver itself.
> I am not sure if there is a rule of thumb for this type of thing?

It seems to be a matter of preference.

I think DT is mainly about identifying which HW is present. Facets of 
the HW that are fixed (100% derivable from the compatible value) belong 
in the driver. If we took the opposite view, we should put a description 
of every register/field layout in the DT in case they change on new HW 
and we don't want to edit the driver code to take account of that, and 
in fact should put byte code into the DT since simple data might not be 
enough to allow us not to edit the driver. Facets that vary between 
boards, use-cases, etc. are the main benefit of DT in my opinion, not 
slow-moving data specific to SoCs.
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Stephen Warren Oct. 7, 2015, 4:09 p.m. UTC | #8
On 10/07/2015 02:43 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
> On 07/10/15 00:04, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 10/05/2015 06:10 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>>> controller.
>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>
>>> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
>>> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum number
>>> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
>>> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
>>> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes whether
>>> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2 for
>>> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values
>>> correspond
>>> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
>>
>> Is it typical to encode the direction into the dma cells? I would have
>> thought the client would provide that information at run-time when
>> requesting a DMA channel.
>
> I have seen other dma bindings that do [0]. If we don't put the
> direction in the client binding, then it would appear as ...
>
> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>      ...
>      dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>             <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>             <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>             <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>             <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>      dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>                  "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>                  "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>                  "rx10", "tx10";
>      ...
> };
>
> ... where "rxN" and "txN" appear to use the same request, but the
> reality is that "rxN" is using rx-request-N and "txN" is using
> tx-request-N. Arnd questioned this before. Obviously I can explain this
> in the binding document if the above is preferred. However, given that
> they are named "rx1", "rx2", etc, why not put the direction in the binding?

Why would we need to duplicate the request IDs? I'd expect to have the 
following property content:

dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 3>, ...;
dma-names = "1", "2", "3"...;

*and* not have a cell to represent the direction in DT. After all, the 
direction of the channel is 100% implied by the use-case (and hence 
defined by the DMA client's own DT binding); it is known by the client 
driver and can be supplied at run-time.

Perhaps the core DMA DT bindings are not designed that way though, in 
which case I suppose the patch you sent makes sense. If so though, that 
seems like a bug in the core DMA DT bindings.
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Jon Hunter Oct. 7, 2015, 4:19 p.m. UTC | #9
On 07/10/15 17:09, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/07/2015 02:43 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>
>> On 07/10/15 00:04, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>> On 10/05/2015 06:10 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>>>> controller.
>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>
>>>> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
>>>> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum
>>>> number
>>>> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
>>>> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the
>>>> RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
>>>> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes
>>>> whether
>>>> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2
>>>> for
>>>> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values
>>>> correspond
>>>> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
>>>
>>> Is it typical to encode the direction into the dma cells? I would have
>>> thought the client would provide that information at run-time when
>>> requesting a DMA channel.
>>
>> I have seen other dma bindings that do [0]. If we don't put the
>> direction in the client binding, then it would appear as ...
>>
>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>      ...
>>      dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>             <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>             <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>             <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>             <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>      dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>                  "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>                  "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>                  "rx10", "tx10";
>>      ...
>> };
>>
>> ... where "rxN" and "txN" appear to use the same request, but the
>> reality is that "rxN" is using rx-request-N and "txN" is using
>> tx-request-N. Arnd questioned this before. Obviously I can explain this
>> in the binding document if the above is preferred. However, given that
>> they are named "rx1", "rx2", etc, why not put the direction in the
>> binding?
> 
> Why would we need to duplicate the request IDs? I'd expect to have the
> following property content:
> 
> dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 3>, ...;
> dma-names = "1", "2", "3"...;
> 
> *and* not have a cell to represent the direction in DT. After all, the
> direction of the channel is 100% implied by the use-case (and hence
> defined by the DMA client's own DT binding); it is known by the client
> driver and can be supplied at run-time.

Right, but what does the 1, 2, 3, etc in the specifier represent? If it
is the request signal then I don't see how this would work because there
are 10 rx request signals and 10 tx requests signal and both are 1-10.
If you look at the ADMA_CH<n>_CTRL_0 register you will see there are a
fields for the TX_REQUEST_SELECT, RX_REQUEST_SELECT and
TRANSFER_DIRECTION. It seems a bit silly to have both TX_REQUEST_SELECT
and RX_REQUEST_SELECT as the channel can only work with one direction at
any given time.

> Perhaps the core DMA DT bindings are not designed that way though, in
> which case I suppose the patch you sent makes sense. If so though, that
> seems like a bug in the core DMA DT bindings.

I think it is more of a nuance in how this DMA controller is configured.

Jon
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Mark Rutland Oct. 7, 2015, 4:33 p.m. UTC | #10
[...]

> >>>>>+- dma-channels: Must be 22. Defines the number of DMA channels
> >>>>>supported
> >>>>>+  by the DMA controller.
> >>>>
> >>>>If this has to be a fixed value, why is it necessary? Why does the
> >>>>driver not just know this?
> >>>>
> >>>>Are there other instances of this IP block where this differs?
> >>>
> >>>So this will change for future devices and yes it may seem silly now to
> >>>have something that fixed and appears to be constant but I was trying to
> >>>future proof the binding. May be the comment should read "For tegra210
> >>>must be 22", however, I thought the compatible string would imply this.
> >>
> >>Typically you'd want a table in the driver that maps from compatible
> >>value to the set of per-SoC data that's associated with the compatible
> >>value. Then, you don't need to put this data into the DT.
> >
> >Yes I have seen that which I was not sure that I was a fan of, given
> >that we have DT and its purpose is to describe the hardware. So may be
> >the problem I have is deciding on which hardware parameters should be
> >described in DT versus those that should be place in the driver itself.
> >I am not sure if there is a rule of thumb for this type of thing?
> 
> It seems to be a matter of preference.
> 
> I think DT is mainly about identifying which HW is present. Facets
> of the HW that are fixed (100% derivable from the compatible value)
> belong in the driver. If we took the opposite view, we should put a
> description of every register/field layout in the DT in case they
> change on new HW and we don't want to edit the driver code to take
> account of that, and in fact should put byte code into the DT since
> simple data might not be enough to allow us not to edit the driver.
> Facets that vary between boards, use-cases, etc. are the main
> benefit of DT in my opinion, not slow-moving data specific to SoCs.

I think it depends on what the difference is as opposed to how quickly
it changes.

If there's some known-configurable but non-probeable property of an IP
block, then describing that explicitly makes sense if you can predict
what the other configurations will look like in terms of the programming
interface (e.g. the register layout). That gives you a degree of forward
compatibility, with less churn and a smaller driver.

If the register layout changes in a non-predictable fashion, you cannot
capture that in a binding a need more code. There will always be
elements which are non-predictable and need changes, but that need not
be the default case.

Mark.
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Mark Rutland Oct. 7, 2015, 4:38 p.m. UTC | #11
On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 09:43:45AM +0100, Jon Hunter wrote:
> 
> On 07/10/15 00:04, Stephen Warren wrote:
> > On 10/05/2015 06:10 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
> >> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
> >> controller.
> > 
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
> >> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
> > 
> >> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
> >> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum number
> >> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
> >> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
> >> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes whether
> >> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2 for
> >> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values
> >> correspond
> >> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
> > 
> > Is it typical to encode the direction into the dma cells? I would have
> > thought the client would provide that information at run-time when
> > requesting a DMA channel.
> 
> I have seen other dma bindings that do [0]. If we don't put the
> direction in the client binding, then it would appear as ...
> 
> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>     ...
>     dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>            <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>            <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>            <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>            <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>     dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>                 "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>                 "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>                 "rx10", "tx10";
>     ...
> };
> 
> ... where "rxN" and "txN" appear to use the same request, but the
> reality is that "rxN" is using rx-request-N and "txN" is using
> tx-request-N. Arnd questioned this before. Obviously I can explain this
> in the binding document if the above is preferred. However, given that
> they are named "rx1", "rx2", etc, why not put the direction in the binding?

The client shouldn't know anything about the format of the specifier. If
the client expects separate rx and tx DMA channels, it should describe
these separately with names as above, regardless of whether the DMA
controller requires TX and RX channels to be described differently.

I don't know if it make sense to also verify this from the DMA
controller's PoV.

Mark.
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Stephen Warren Oct. 7, 2015, 7:36 p.m. UTC | #12
On 10/07/2015 10:19 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
> On 07/10/15 17:09, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 10/07/2015 02:43 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>> On 07/10/15 00:04, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/2015 06:10 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>>>>> controller.
>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>
>>>>> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
>>>>> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum
>>>>> number
>>>>> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
>>>>> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the
>>>>> RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
>>>>> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes
>>>>> whether
>>>>> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2
>>>>> for
>>>>> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values
>>>>> correspond
>>>>> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
>>>>
>>>> Is it typical to encode the direction into the dma cells? I would have
>>>> thought the client would provide that information at run-time when
>>>> requesting a DMA channel.
>>>
>>> I have seen other dma bindings that do [0]. If we don't put the
>>> direction in the client binding, then it would appear as ...
>>>
>>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>>       ...
>>>       dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>>              <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>>              <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>>              <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>>              <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>>       dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>>                   "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>>                   "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>>                   "rx10", "tx10";
>>>       ...
>>> };
>>>
>>> ... where "rxN" and "txN" appear to use the same request, but the
>>> reality is that "rxN" is using rx-request-N and "txN" is using
>>> tx-request-N. Arnd questioned this before. Obviously I can explain this
>>> in the binding document if the above is preferred. However, given that
>>> they are named "rx1", "rx2", etc, why not put the direction in the
>>> binding?
>>
>> Why would we need to duplicate the request IDs? I'd expect to have the
>> following property content:
>>
>> dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 3>, ...;
>> dma-names = "1", "2", "3"...;
>>
>> *and* not have a cell to represent the direction in DT. After all, the
>> direction of the channel is 100% implied by the use-case (and hence
>> defined by the DMA client's own DT binding); it is known by the client
>> driver and can be supplied at run-time.
>
> Right, but what does the 1, 2, 3, etc in the specifier represent?

Aren't they the ADMAIF FIFO IDs?

We know the set/number of ADMAIF FIFOs, and each FIFO needs a request 
selector ID. The list of those can be indexed by the identity of the 
FIFO that is accessed via DMA.

Thinking about this more, I think actually that the dmas/dma-names 
property example that you posted above is exactly what is required here. 
The counter-example I wrote makes this assumption and hence is invalid. 
The ADMAIF binding should not assume that the RX and TX request selector 
IDs are identical. As such, dmas/dma-names should have both an RX and TX 
entry for each ADMAIF FIFO.

Still, there's no need to encode the DMA direction into the #dma-cells. 
The client code will know that if it wants to configure DMA into (TX to) 
FIFO ID 5, it must query dma-names entry "tx5", and simply use whatever 
is in the DT. When it passes that DMA specifier to the DMA API, the 
ADMAIF driver knows that it will be for TX, and can pass that 
information to the DMA code.
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Jon Hunter Oct. 8, 2015, 9:58 a.m. UTC | #13
On 07/10/15 20:36, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/07/2015 10:19 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>
>> On 07/10/15 17:09, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>> On 10/07/2015 02:43 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 07/10/15 00:04, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>> On 10/05/2015 06:10 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>>>>>> controller.
>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
>>>>>> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
>>>>>> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the
>>>>>> RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
>>>>>> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes
>>>>>> whether
>>>>>> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values
>>>>>> correspond
>>>>>> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it typical to encode the direction into the dma cells? I would have
>>>>> thought the client would provide that information at run-time when
>>>>> requesting a DMA channel.
>>>>
>>>> I have seen other dma bindings that do [0]. If we don't put the
>>>> direction in the client binding, then it would appear as ...
>>>>
>>>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>>>       ...
>>>>       dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>>>              <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>>>              <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>>>              <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>>>              <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>>>       dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>>>                   "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>>>                   "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>>>                   "rx10", "tx10";
>>>>       ...
>>>> };
>>>>
>>>> ... where "rxN" and "txN" appear to use the same request, but the
>>>> reality is that "rxN" is using rx-request-N and "txN" is using
>>>> tx-request-N. Arnd questioned this before. Obviously I can explain this
>>>> in the binding document if the above is preferred. However, given that
>>>> they are named "rx1", "rx2", etc, why not put the direction in the
>>>> binding?
>>>
>>> Why would we need to duplicate the request IDs? I'd expect to have the
>>> following property content:
>>>
>>> dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 3>, ...;
>>> dma-names = "1", "2", "3"...;
>>>
>>> *and* not have a cell to represent the direction in DT. After all, the
>>> direction of the channel is 100% implied by the use-case (and hence
>>> defined by the DMA client's own DT binding); it is known by the client
>>> driver and can be supplied at run-time.
>>
>> Right, but what does the 1, 2, 3, etc in the specifier represent?
> 
> Aren't they the ADMAIF FIFO IDs?

Yes.

> We know the set/number of ADMAIF FIFOs, and each FIFO needs a request
> selector ID. The list of those can be indexed by the identity of the
> FIFO that is accessed via DMA.

Right, but you have 10 RX FIFOs and 10 TX FIFOs. The FIFOs are
unidirectional. This means that instead of having 20 FIFOs from 1-20
(yes the FIFOs start from 1 and not 0), you have RX FIFOs from 1-10 and
TX FIFOs from 1-10.

> Thinking about this more, I think actually that the dmas/dma-names
> property example that you posted above is exactly what is required here.

Ok, good.

> The counter-example I wrote makes this assumption and hence is invalid.
> The ADMAIF binding should not assume that the RX and TX request selector
> IDs are identical. As such, dmas/dma-names should have both an RX and TX
> entry for each ADMAIF FIFO.

Yes.

> Still, there's no need to encode the DMA direction into the #dma-cells.
> The client code will know that if it wants to configure DMA into (TX to)
> FIFO ID 5, it must query dma-names entry "tx5", and simply use whatever
> is in the DT. When it passes that DMA specifier to the DMA API, the
> ADMAIF driver knows that it will be for TX, and can pass that
> information to the DMA code.

That's fine. From my perspective I don't have a strong objection either
way, however, I can see that given that the name indicates rx or tx,
then the direction in the binding could be seen as redundant.

So to confirm you are happy with the client bindings being as follows?

tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
      ...
     dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
            <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
            <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
            <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
            <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
     dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
                 "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
                 "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
                 "rx10", "tx10";
     ...
};

Jon



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Stephen Warren Oct. 8, 2015, 2:27 p.m. UTC | #14
On 10/08/2015 03:58 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
> On 07/10/15 20:36, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 10/07/2015 10:19 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>> On 07/10/15 17:09, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> On 10/07/2015 02:43 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/10/15 00:04, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/05/2015 06:10 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>> Add device-tree binding documentation for the Tegra210 Audio DMA
>>>>>>> controller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
>>>>>>> +  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum
>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>> +  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
>>>>>>> +  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the
>>>>>>> RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
>>>>>>> +  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes
>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>> +  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> +  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values
>>>>>>> correspond
>>>>>>> +  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it typical to encode the direction into the dma cells? I would have
>>>>>> thought the client would provide that information at run-time when
>>>>>> requesting a DMA channel.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen other dma bindings that do [0]. If we don't put the
>>>>> direction in the client binding, then it would appear as ...
>>>>>
>>>>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>>>>        ...
>>>>>        dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>>>>               <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>>>>               <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>>>>               <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>>>>               <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>>>>        dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>>>>                    "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>>>>                    "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>>>>                    "rx10", "tx10";
>>>>>        ...
>>>>> };
>>>>>
>>>>> ... where "rxN" and "txN" appear to use the same request, but the
>>>>> reality is that "rxN" is using rx-request-N and "txN" is using
>>>>> tx-request-N. Arnd questioned this before. Obviously I can explain this
>>>>> in the binding document if the above is preferred. However, given that
>>>>> they are named "rx1", "rx2", etc, why not put the direction in the
>>>>> binding?
>>>>
>>>> Why would we need to duplicate the request IDs? I'd expect to have the
>>>> following property content:
>>>>
>>>> dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 3>, ...;
>>>> dma-names = "1", "2", "3"...;
>>>>
>>>> *and* not have a cell to represent the direction in DT. After all, the
>>>> direction of the channel is 100% implied by the use-case (and hence
>>>> defined by the DMA client's own DT binding); it is known by the client
>>>> driver and can be supplied at run-time.
>>>
>>> Right, but what does the 1, 2, 3, etc in the specifier represent?
>>
>> Aren't they the ADMAIF FIFO IDs?
>
> Yes.
>
>> We know the set/number of ADMAIF FIFOs, and each FIFO needs a request
>> selector ID. The list of those can be indexed by the identity of the
>> FIFO that is accessed via DMA.
>
> Right, but you have 10 RX FIFOs and 10 TX FIFOs. The FIFOs are
> unidirectional. This means that instead of having 20 FIFOs from 1-20
> (yes the FIFOs start from 1 and not 0), you have RX FIFOs from 1-10 and
> TX FIFOs from 1-10.
>
>> Thinking about this more, I think actually that the dmas/dma-names
>> property example that you posted above is exactly what is required here.
>
> Ok, good.
>
>> The counter-example I wrote makes this assumption and hence is invalid.
>> The ADMAIF binding should not assume that the RX and TX request selector
>> IDs are identical. As such, dmas/dma-names should have both an RX and TX
>> entry for each ADMAIF FIFO.
>
> Yes.
>
>> Still, there's no need to encode the DMA direction into the #dma-cells.
>> The client code will know that if it wants to configure DMA into (TX to)
>> FIFO ID 5, it must query dma-names entry "tx5", and simply use whatever
>> is in the DT. When it passes that DMA specifier to the DMA API, the
>> ADMAIF driver knows that it will be for TX, and can pass that
>> information to the DMA code.
>
> That's fine. From my perspective I don't have a strong objection either
> way, however, I can see that given that the name indicates rx or tx,
> then the direction in the binding could be seen as redundant.
>
> So to confirm you are happy with the client bindings being as follows?
>
> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>        ...
>       dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>              <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>              <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>              <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>              <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>       dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>                   "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>                   "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>                   "rx10", "tx10";
>       ...
> };

Yes, that looks good for the client binding.

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Jon Hunter Oct. 9, 2015, 10:20 a.m. UTC | #15
On 08/10/15 15:27, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/08/2015 03:58 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:

[snip]

>> That's fine. From my perspective I don't have a strong objection either
>> way, however, I can see that given that the name indicates rx or tx,
>> then the direction in the binding could be seen as redundant.
>>
>> So to confirm you are happy with the client bindings being as follows?
>>
>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>        ...
>>       dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>              <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>              <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>              <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>              <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>       dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>                   "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>                   "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>                   "rx10", "tx10";
>>       ...
>> };
> 
> Yes, that looks good for the client binding.

One more clarifying question ... should the xlate verify that no other
dma channel is using the same hardware request signal?

I understand that typically the xlate decodes the binding to get the
channel info, but because this is invoked by dmaengine while allocating
a channel, I was wondering if we should prevent dmaengine allocating
more than one channel to be used with the same hardware request? If so,
then passing the direction to the xlate would be necessary (so I can
determine in the xlate that no one else is currently using this, which
is what I currently do).

Alternatively, I could check that no one else is using the request
signal at a later when the transfer is being prepared.

If you are wondering why I am worried about this, I my mind I think that
the driver should be robust enough to check for conflicts in the request
signals used by the various channels.

Jon


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Stephen Warren Oct. 9, 2015, 3:26 p.m. UTC | #16
On 10/09/2015 04:20 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
> On 08/10/15 15:27, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 10/08/2015 03:58 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> That's fine. From my perspective I don't have a strong objection either
>>> way, however, I can see that given that the name indicates rx or tx,
>>> then the direction in the binding could be seen as redundant.
>>>
>>> So to confirm you are happy with the client bindings being as follows?
>>>
>>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>>         ...
>>>        dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>>               <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>>               <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>>               <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>>               <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>>        dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>>                    "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>>                    "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>>                    "rx10", "tx10";
>>>        ...
>>> };
>>
>> Yes, that looks good for the client binding.
>
> One more clarifying question ... should the xlate verify that no other
> dma channel is using the same hardware request signal?
>
> I understand that typically the xlate decodes the binding to get the
> channel info, but because this is invoked by dmaengine while allocating
> a channel, I was wondering if we should prevent dmaengine allocating
> more than one channel to be used with the same hardware request? If so,
> then passing the direction to the xlate would be necessary (so I can
> determine in the xlate that no one else is currently using this, which
> is what I currently do).
>
> Alternatively, I could check that no one else is using the request
> signal at a later when the transfer is being prepared.

I think that handling this at prepare/usage time is probably most 
appropriate. That is the time when the resource conflict /actually/ occurs.

The only time when two clients would be given the same DMA request 
signal is if there are multiple different drivers that can DMA into the 
same FIFO in a time-multiplexed fashion. That seems pretty unlikely off 
the top of my head, but I don't think we want to actively ban that, in 
case we come up with a cunning use-case for it.

> If you are wondering why I am worried about this, I my mind I think that
> the driver should be robust enough to check for conflicts in the request
> signals used by the various channels.

Sure, makes sense.
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Jon Hunter Oct. 12, 2015, 1:55 p.m. UTC | #17
On 09/10/15 16:26, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/09/2015 04:20 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>
>> On 08/10/15 15:27, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>> On 10/08/2015 03:58 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>> That's fine. From my perspective I don't have a strong objection either
>>>> way, however, I can see that given that the name indicates rx or tx,
>>>> then the direction in the binding could be seen as redundant.
>>>>
>>>> So to confirm you are happy with the client bindings being as follows?
>>>>
>>>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>>>         ...
>>>>        dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>>>               <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>>>               <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>>>               <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>>>               <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>>>        dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>>>                    "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>>>                    "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>>>                    "rx10", "tx10";
>>>>        ...
>>>> };
>>>
>>> Yes, that looks good for the client binding.
>>
>> One more clarifying question ... should the xlate verify that no other
>> dma channel is using the same hardware request signal?
>>
>> I understand that typically the xlate decodes the binding to get the
>> channel info, but because this is invoked by dmaengine while allocating
>> a channel, I was wondering if we should prevent dmaengine allocating
>> more than one channel to be used with the same hardware request? If so,
>> then passing the direction to the xlate would be necessary (so I can
>> determine in the xlate that no one else is currently using this, which
>> is what I currently do).
>>
>> Alternatively, I could check that no one else is using the request
>> signal at a later when the transfer is being prepared.
> 
> I think that handling this at prepare/usage time is probably most
> appropriate. That is the time when the resource conflict /actually/ occurs.

Although that makes sense, the more I look at this, the more I think it
should be handled during the channel allocate/free phases as it makes
sense to allocate the required resources then. It is probably simpler
and safer too.

> The only time when two clients would be given the same DMA request
> signal is if there are multiple different drivers that can DMA into the
> same FIFO in a time-multiplexed fashion. That seems pretty unlikely off
> the top of my head, but I don't think we want to actively ban that, in
> case we come up with a cunning use-case for it.

I know this is purely an example, but if such a time-multiplexed scheme
was a real use-case, then it would seem more likely to have a shim layer
between the clients that talked to the dmaengine and hence, it would
still only be necessary for one client to interface to a given channel.

What I don't like about the above binding is that someone can request
the dma channel "tx5" and then call dmaengine_prep_dma_cyclic() and say
you know what, I am gonna receive data instead. That seems odd and I
think that such a scenario should be greeted with an error code of
-EINVAL. It seems to me that if channels are uni-directional (in the
sense you either use it for tx or rx), you should request the
appropriate channel for the direction you want and then set the
direction in dmaengine_prep_dma_cyclic() so that it matches and if it
does not then we return an error.

So I still like the idea of the direction of the request being in the
binding so we know what the client intends (sorry to keep changing my
mind). Do you completely deplore the idea?

Jon
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Stephen Warren Oct. 12, 2015, 5:51 p.m. UTC | #18
On 10/12/2015 07:55 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>
> On 09/10/15 16:26, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 10/09/2015 04:20 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/10/15 15:27, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> On 10/08/2015 03:58 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>> That's fine. From my perspective I don't have a strong objection either
>>>>> way, however, I can see that given that the name indicates rx or tx,
>>>>> then the direction in the binding could be seen as redundant.
>>>>>
>>>>> So to confirm you are happy with the client bindings being as follows?
>>>>>
>>>>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>>>>          ...
>>>>>         dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>>>>                <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>>>>                <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>>>>                <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>>>>                <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>>>>         dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>>>>                     "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>>>>                     "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>>>>                     "rx10", "tx10";
>>>>>         ...
>>>>> };
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that looks good for the client binding.
>>>
>>> One more clarifying question ... should the xlate verify that no other
>>> dma channel is using the same hardware request signal?
>>>
>>> I understand that typically the xlate decodes the binding to get the
>>> channel info, but because this is invoked by dmaengine while allocating
>>> a channel, I was wondering if we should prevent dmaengine allocating
>>> more than one channel to be used with the same hardware request? If so,
>>> then passing the direction to the xlate would be necessary (so I can
>>> determine in the xlate that no one else is currently using this, which
>>> is what I currently do).
>>>
>>> Alternatively, I could check that no one else is using the request
>>> signal at a later when the transfer is being prepared.
>>
>> I think that handling this at prepare/usage time is probably most
>> appropriate. That is the time when the resource conflict /actually/ occurs.
>
> Although that makes sense, the more I look at this, the more I think it
> should be handled during the channel allocate/free phases as it makes
> sense to allocate the required resources then. It is probably simpler
> and safer too.

I fail to see how it's simpler or safer. Everything is still 100% safe 
if the checks are handled when the channel is actually used. I think 
it's simpler too, since there's less to worry about in DT, and less 
state to carry around in the code.

>> The only time when two clients would be given the same DMA request
>> signal is if there are multiple different drivers that can DMA into the
>> same FIFO in a time-multiplexed fashion. That seems pretty unlikely off
>> the top of my head, but I don't think we want to actively ban that, in
>> case we come up with a cunning use-case for it.
>
> I know this is purely an example, but if such a time-multiplexed scheme
> was a real use-case, then it would seem more likely to have a shim layer
> between the clients that talked to the dmaengine and hence, it would
> still only be necessary for one client to interface to a given channel.

I don't agree at all. There's no reason why clients shouldn't simply go 
to the dmaengine code and request to use channels when they need them. 
Why would a shim layer be needed for that?

> What I don't like about the above binding is that someone can request
> the dma channel "tx5" and then call dmaengine_prep_dma_cyclic() and say
> you know what, I am gonna receive data instead.

It's always possible to write bugs. The DMA binding can't fix that.

> That seems odd and I
> think that such a scenario should be greeted with an error code of
> -EINVAL. It seems to me that if channels are uni-directional (in the
> sense you either use it for tx or rx), you should request the
> appropriate channel for the direction you want and then set the
> direction in dmaengine_prep_dma_cyclic() so that it matches and if it
> does not then we return an error.

Channels (in HW) are uni-directional for a particular transfer, but can 
operate in any arbitrary combination of directions for different transfers.

Do note that the name "tx5" is something 100% isolated to the client of 
the DMA channel and meaningless for the DMA controller itself. This is 
simply a name that the client uses to look up data that it must pass to 
the DMA controller.

> So I still like the idea of the direction of the request being in the
> binding so we know what the client intends (sorry to keep changing my
> mind). Do you completely deplore the idea?

I still believe it's wrong yes.
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Jon Hunter Oct. 13, 2015, 12:56 p.m. UTC | #19
On 12/10/15 18:51, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 07:55 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>
>> On 09/10/15 16:26, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>> On 10/09/2015 04:20 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/10/15 15:27, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>> On 10/08/2015 03:58 AM, Jon Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>>> That's fine. From my perspective I don't have a strong objection
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> way, however, I can see that given that the name indicates rx or tx,
>>>>>> then the direction in the binding could be seen as redundant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So to confirm you are happy with the client bindings being as
>>>>>> follows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tegra_admaif: admaif@0x702d0000 {
>>>>>>          ...
>>>>>>         dmas = <&adma 1>, <&adma 1>, <&adma 2>, <&adma 2>,
>>>>>>                <&adma 3>, <&adma 3>, <&adma 4>, <&adma 4>,
>>>>>>                <&adma 5>, <&adma 5>, <&adma 6>, <&adma 6>,
>>>>>>                <&adma 7>, <&adma 7>, <&adma 8>, <&adma 8>,
>>>>>>                <&adma 9>, <&adma 9>, <&adma 10>, <&adma 10>;
>>>>>>         dma-names = "rx1", "tx1", "rx2", "tx2", "rx3", "tx3",
>>>>>>                     "rx4", "tx4", "rx5", "tx5", "rx6", "tx6",
>>>>>>                     "rx7", "tx7", "rx8", "tx8", "rx9", "tx9",
>>>>>>                     "rx10", "tx10";
>>>>>>         ...
>>>>>> };
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that looks good for the client binding.
>>>>
>>>> One more clarifying question ... should the xlate verify that no other
>>>> dma channel is using the same hardware request signal?
>>>>
>>>> I understand that typically the xlate decodes the binding to get the
>>>> channel info, but because this is invoked by dmaengine while allocating
>>>> a channel, I was wondering if we should prevent dmaengine allocating
>>>> more than one channel to be used with the same hardware request? If so,
>>>> then passing the direction to the xlate would be necessary (so I can
>>>> determine in the xlate that no one else is currently using this, which
>>>> is what I currently do).
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, I could check that no one else is using the request
>>>> signal at a later when the transfer is being prepared.
>>>
>>> I think that handling this at prepare/usage time is probably most
>>> appropriate. That is the time when the resource conflict /actually/
>>> occurs.
>>
>> Although that makes sense, the more I look at this, the more I think it
>> should be handled during the channel allocate/free phases as it makes
>> sense to allocate the required resources then. It is probably simpler
>> and safer too.
> 
> I fail to see how it's simpler or safer. Everything is still 100% safe
> if the checks are handled when the channel is actually used. I think
> it's simpler too, since there's less to worry about in DT, and less
> state to carry around in the code.

Safer/simpler in the sense that there are less potential paths to deal
with (ie. completion paths). That's all.

>>> The only time when two clients would be given the same DMA request
>>> signal is if there are multiple different drivers that can DMA into the
>>> same FIFO in a time-multiplexed fashion. That seems pretty unlikely off
>>> the top of my head, but I don't think we want to actively ban that, in
>>> case we come up with a cunning use-case for it.
>>
>> I know this is purely an example, but if such a time-multiplexed scheme
>> was a real use-case, then it would seem more likely to have a shim layer
>> between the clients that talked to the dmaengine and hence, it would
>> still only be necessary for one client to interface to a given channel.
> 
> I don't agree at all. There's no reason why clients shouldn't simply go
> to the dmaengine code and request to use channels when they need them.
> Why would a shim layer be needed for that?

I was just thinking about the granularity of time-multiplexing and
overhead of swapping the sync back and forth versus formatting the
buffer prior to submitting to dmaengine.

>> What I don't like about the above binding is that someone can request
>> the dma channel "tx5" and then call dmaengine_prep_dma_cyclic() and say
>> you know what, I am gonna receive data instead.
> 
> It's always possible to write bugs. The DMA binding can't fix that.

Shame ;-)

>> That seems odd and I
>> think that such a scenario should be greeted with an error code of
>> -EINVAL. It seems to me that if channels are uni-directional (in the
>> sense you either use it for tx or rx), you should request the
>> appropriate channel for the direction you want and then set the
>> direction in dmaengine_prep_dma_cyclic() so that it matches and if it
>> does not then we return an error.
> 
> Channels (in HW) are uni-directional for a particular transfer, but can
> operate in any arbitrary combination of directions for different transfers.
> 
> Do note that the name "tx5" is something 100% isolated to the client of
> the DMA channel and meaningless for the DMA controller itself. This is
> simply a name that the client uses to look up data that it must pass to
> the DMA controller.

Yes.

>> So I still like the idea of the direction of the request being in the
>> binding so we know what the client intends (sorry to keep changing my
>> mind). Do you completely deplore the idea?
> 
> I still believe it's wrong yes.

Won't be my first time ;-)

I was trying to describe the sync and it seems for this DMA, to describe
each hardware sync you would need the index and direction. So putting
both in the binding does not seem entirely bonkers. However, I concede
that in this case the direction is somewhat negligible because as long
as the driver can handle any conflict between clients (w.r.t syncs), the
client just needs the index of the appropriate dma interface.

Jon
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diff mbox

Patch

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..df0e46868a63
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/dma/tegra210-adma.txt
@@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ 
+* NVIDIA Tegra Audio DMA (ADMA) controller
+
+Required properties:
+- compatible: Must be "nvidia,tegra210-adma".
+- reg: Should contain DMA registers location and length. This should be
+  a single entry that includes all of the per-channel registers in one
+  contiguous bank.
+- interrupt-parent: Phandle to the interrupt parent controller.
+- interrupts: Should contain all of the per-channel DMA interrupts in
+  ascending order with respect to the DMA channel index.
+- clocks: Must contain one entry for the ADMA module clock, "adma_ape".
+- clock-names: Must contain the entry "adma_ape".
+- dma-channels: Must be 22. Defines the number of DMA channels supported
+  by the DMA controller.
+- dma-rx-requests: Must be 10. Defines the number of receive request
+  signals supported by the DMA controller.
+- dma-tx-requests: Must be 10. Defines the number of transmit request
+  signals supported by the DMA controller.
+- #dma-cells : Must be <2>. The first cell denotes the transmit or
+  receive request number and should be between 1 and the maximum number
+  of requests supported (see properties "dma-rx-requests" and
+  "dma-tx-requests"). This value corresponds to the RX/TX_REQUEST_SELECT
+  fields in the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register. The second cell denotes whether
+  the channel is a receive or transmit channel and must be either 2 for
+  a receive channel and 4 for a transmit channel. These values correspond
+  to the TRANSFER_DIRECTION field of the ADMA_CHn_CTRL register.
+
+
+Example:
+
+adma: adma@702e2000 {
+	compatible = "nvidia,tegra210-adma";
+	reg = <0x0 0x702e2000 0x0 0x2000>;
+	interrupt-parent = <&tegra_agic>;
+	interrupts = <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT0 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT1 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT2 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT3 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT4 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT5 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT6 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT7 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT8 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT9 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT10 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT11 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT12 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT13 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT14 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT15 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT16 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT17 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT18 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT19 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT20 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>,
+		     <GIC_SPI INT_ADMA_EOT21 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
+	clocks = <&tegra_car TEGRA210_CLK_ADMA_APE>;
+	clock-names = "adma_ape";
+	dma-channels = <22>;
+	dma-rx-requests = <10>;
+	dma-tx-requests = <10>;
+	#dma-cells = <2>;
+};