[{"id":1767395,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/1767395/","msgid":"<20cd52f7-eb01-2712-5909-1d724a874535@linaro.org>","list_archive_url":null,"date":"2017-09-12T21:51:08","subject":"Re: [hurd,commited] hurd: Fix build without NO_HIDDEN","submitter":{"id":66065,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/66065/","name":"Adhemerval Zanella Netto","email":"adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org"},"content":"On 12/09/2017 17:36, Samuel Thibault wrote:\n> Adhemerval Zanella, on mar. 12 sept. 2017 17:34:51 -0300, wrote:\n>> Samuel, since you spent time in a lot of patches to fix Hurd build,\n>> wouldn't be better if you could add hurd build support on \n>> build-many-glibcs.py?\n> \n> Unfortunately, we are still far from having something buildable. I'm\n> here just keeping up with the newer versions, but there are patches\n> needed (e.g. for TLS) which are not included yet and need care.\n\nSo currently you can't really build glibc master for hurd, is it\ncorrect?\n\n> \n>> I do not know if it is possible to cross-compiling hurd on Linux,\n> \n> It is, but that needs a cross-toolchain which is really not trivial :)\n\nRight, but how currently are you actually testing your changes? Do we\nneed an old dated toolchain? If so, is there any option to actually\nintegrate it on build-many-glibcs.py?\n\n> \n>> but I think at least a native build could be useful so generic changes\n>> could be checked against Hurd as well.\n> \n> Yep, ideally :)\n> \n> Samuel\n> \n\nPS: I am CC'ing libc-alpha because it was my initial intent.","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@bilbo.ozlabs.org","mailing list libc-alpha@sourceware.org"],"Authentication-Results":["ozlabs.org;\n\tspf=pass (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=sourceware.org\n\t(client-ip=209.132.180.131; helo=sourceware.org;\n\tenvelope-from=libc-alpha-return-84528-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@sourceware.org;\n\treceiver=)","ozlabs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key;\n\tsecure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org\n\theader.b=\"fILK1Zb7\"; dkim-atps=neutral","sourceware.org; auth=none"],"Received":["from sourceware.org (server1.sourceware.org [209.132.180.131])\n\t(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256\n\tbits)) (No client certificate requested)\n\tby ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3xsJQg2HY6z9t3J\n\tfor ;\n\tWed, 13 Sep 2017 07:51:22 +1000 (AEST)","(qmail 41476 invoked by alias); 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I'm\n> > here just keeping up with the newer versions, but there are patches\n> > needed (e.g. for TLS) which are not included yet and need care.\n> \n> So currently you can't really build glibc master for hurd, is it\n> correct?\n\nYes, some patches are needed.\n\n> >> I do not know if it is possible to cross-compiling hurd on Linux,\n> > \n> > It is, but that needs a cross-toolchain which is really not trivial :)\n> \n> Right, but how currently are you actually testing your changes?\n\nI test with the additional needed patches in. They usually don't\ninterfere with the changes. If they do, then they get queue behind\nthose missing patches.\n\n> Do we need an old dated toolchain?\n\nNo, we use current binutils & gcc-6 etc. (probably gcc-7 will be fine,\nit was just not tested yet in Debian).\n\n> >> but I think at least a native build could be useful so generic changes\n> >> could be checked against Hurd as well.\n> > \n> > Yep, ideally :)\n> \n> PS: I am CC'ing libc-alpha because it was my initial intent.\n\nOk :)\n\nsamuel","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@bilbo.ozlabs.org","mailing list libc-alpha@sourceware.org"],"Authentication-Results":["ozlabs.org;\n\tspf=pass (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=sourceware.org\n\t(client-ip=209.132.180.131; helo=sourceware.org;\n\tenvelope-from=libc-alpha-return-84529-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@sourceware.org;\n\treceiver=)","ozlabs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key;\n\tsecure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org\n\theader.b=\"TiS/rlBw\"; dkim-atps=neutral","sourceware.org; auth=none"],"Received":["from sourceware.org (server1.sourceware.org [209.132.180.131])\n\t(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256\n\tbits)) (No client certificate requested)\n\tby ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3xsJXt2GD1z9t33\n\tfor ;\n\tWed, 13 Sep 2017 07:56:46 +1000 (AEST)","(qmail 95211 invoked by alias); 12 Sep 2017 21:56:40 -0000","(qmail 95196 invoked by uid 89); 12 Sep 2017 21:56:40 -0000"],"DomainKey-Signature":"a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id\n\t:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post\n\t:list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references\n\t:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s=default; b=SvKN\n\thS1wx6amr1IkvujPVsMTZn3Y1chNQBG9V1R9KSuPqxIiBEYxBnlHd8KTnVmdAaxY\n\t3arwXnw0KaRSN2jRmZO+ApWeisSZYPBQqMiC1YsrFBCR9hRv275lj/UtpcWiLrU3\n\tXK9pTY51hrIRGQA5F3+UU6PoiREO+SuFI8ivaIQ=","DKIM-Signature":"v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id\n\t:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post\n\t:list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references\n\t:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=uA1NRzj0Mj\n\trxKN4PmIVc0pa9/+I=; b=TiS/rlBwNU8tAPQ4TYZdxcs1GkM8PG6uc1BpcixWKM\n\tD4mszK8xf9mI4OL104iMpe4tLMjf6/VVsB09lY6xdyTh3HQ3tKE3RR/bao5flab0\n\tSZi+Y1E+smh7008cJe9K7jJh6BB6QYDiy0Yb0K1FGv1Mpc2F81A+kJ3jqxHw1hED\n\tM=","Mailing-List":"contact libc-alpha-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm","Precedence":"bulk","List-Id":"","List-Unsubscribe":"","List-Subscribe":"","List-Archive":"","List-Post":"","List-Help":",\n\t","Sender":"libc-alpha-owner@sourceware.org","X-Virus-Found":"No","X-Spam-SWARE-Status":"No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,\n\tSPF_HELO_PASS,\n\tSPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=dated","X-HELO":"hera.aquilenet.fr","Date":"Tue, 12 Sep 2017 23:56:19 +0200","From":"Samuel Thibault ","To":"Adhemerval Zanella ","Cc":"GNU C Library ","Subject":"Re: [hurd,commited] hurd: Fix build without NO_HIDDEN","Message-ID":"<20170912215619.7pyeka7k2ofd4nup@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr>","References":"<20170911233614.26389-1-samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>\n\t\n\t<20170912203634.c7qp4pcgeaawekhh@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr>\n\t<20cd52f7-eb01-2712-5909-1d724a874535@linaro.org>","MIME-Version":"1.0","Content-Type":"text/plain; charset=us-ascii","Content-Disposition":"inline","In-Reply-To":"<20cd52f7-eb01-2712-5909-1d724a874535@linaro.org>","User-Agent":"NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2)"}},{"id":1767427,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/1767427/","msgid":"","list_archive_url":null,"date":"2017-09-12T23:14:54","subject":"Re: [hurd,commited] hurd: Fix build without NO_HIDDEN","submitter":{"id":4349,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/4349/","name":"Joseph Myers","email":"joseph@codesourcery.com"},"content":"On Tue, 12 Sep 2017, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:\n\n> Right, but how currently are you actually testing your changes? Do we\n> need an old dated toolchain? If so, is there any option to actually\n> integrate it on build-many-glibcs.py?\n\nhttps://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/toolchain/cross-gnu.html describes a \nscript for building a cross toolchain for Hurd. I don't know how current \nit is.\n\nYes, we should have such support in build-many-glibcs.py for checking out \nand building whatever's relevant from MIG / GNU Mach / Hurd / Hurd \nlibpthread and building glibc for Hurd. I think that makes sense even \nwithout functional Hurd support in glibc; it will just fail in all builds \n(like existing broken configurations) and then once the Hurd support in \nglibc is fixed, we'll see it change from FAIL to PASS in the results from \nthe bots.\n\n(Should Hurd libpthread actually be part of glibc rather than a separate \npackage?)","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@bilbo.ozlabs.org","mailing list libc-alpha@sourceware.org"],"Authentication-Results":["ozlabs.org;\n\tspf=pass (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=sourceware.org\n\t(client-ip=209.132.180.131; helo=sourceware.org;\n\tenvelope-from=libc-alpha-return-84530-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@sourceware.org;\n\treceiver=)","ozlabs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key;\n\tsecure) header.d=sourceware.org header.i=@sourceware.org\n\theader.b=\"uE7C2T2i\"; dkim-atps=neutral","sourceware.org; auth=none"],"Received":["from sourceware.org (server1.sourceware.org [209.132.180.131])\n\t(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256\n\tbits)) (No client certificate requested)\n\tby ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3xsLHv2MYDz9t2W\n\tfor ;\n\tWed, 13 Sep 2017 09:15:38 +1000 (AEST)","(qmail 64820 invoked by alias); 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That seems analogous \nto Hurd libpthread.\n\n(b) The only add-on in tree is thus libidn. I'm not aware of any \nout-of-tree add-ons in widespread use. Thus, the utility of having the \nadd-on mechanism at all (rather than building libidn unconditionally, or \nbased on a normal configure option with some mechanism to use an external \nlibidn as an alternative) is dubious.\n\n(c) If you work on the basis that Hurd libpthread should end up in the \nglibc repository (and stop using the add-on mechanism, though stopping \nusing that mechanism is separate from becoming part of the glibc \nrepository, as long as the mechanism still exists), that simplifies the \nbuild process needing adding to build-many-glibcs.py, as there's one fewer \ncomponent to check out.","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@bilbo.ozlabs.org","mailing list libc-alpha@sourceware.org"],"Authentication-Results":["ozlabs.org;\n\tspf=pass (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=sourceware.org\n\t(client-ip=209.132.180.131; helo=sourceware.org;\n\tenvelope-from=libc-alpha-return-84532-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@sourceware.org;\n\treceiver=)","ozlabs.org; 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