[{"id":3685156,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/3685156/","msgid":"<0122a895-9b94-486d-8c0a-ef5563be71f4@bell.net>","list_archive_url":null,"date":"2026-05-01T15:38:39","subject":"Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] build: Remove $gnu_ld","submitter":{"id":8491,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/8491/","name":"John David Anglin","email":"dave.anglin@bell.net"},"content":"On 2026-05-01 10:56 a.m., Rainer Orth wrote:\n> Hi John,\n> \n>> On 2026-04-30 7:48 a.m., Rainer Orth wrote:\n>>>>> <*-*-hpux*>: Assume gnu_ld=no.\n>>>> IIUC these need changes.\n>>> I don't think so: unless I'm missing something, the gnu_ld=yes case\n>>> should already be handled by the previous $gcc_cv_ld --help check. The\n>>> current gnu_ld=no check should have been unnecessary. John?\n>>\n>> If a 64-bit hpux target has the GNU assembler, then it should also have GNU ld.\n>>\n>> Only the 32-bit hppa*-*-hpux* target lacked GNU ld. This target is no longer supported.\n>> However, the default linker if not specified probably should remain HP ld on hppa*-*-hpux*\n>> as it is better supported. Not sure about ia64-*-hpux* but I believe this target no longer\n>> supported.\n> \n> this revised patch follows what I've done for Solaris ld: configure\n> checks whatever linker is either found on PATH or specified with\n> --with-ld. The $gcc_cv_ld -V part then determines which one it is and\n> acts accordingly. For Solaris, I've left it to install.texi to explain\n> my preference (Solaris ld) and the advantages and disadvantages of\n> either, together with always recommending to use --with-ld.\n> \n> That allows users to make an informed choice.\n> \n>> On a slightly different issue, if I try to build gcc with GNU ld with a version\n>> of gcc built with HP ld, I have to explicity configure with --with-ld or export\n>> DEFAULT_LINKER=/opt/gnu64/bin/ld. This causes issues with the binutils ld testsuite:\n>>\n>> Using /home/dave/gnu/binutils/src/ld/testsuite/config/default.exp as\n>> tool-and-target-specific interface file.\n>> ERROR: ************************************************************************\n>> ERROR: Your compiler apparently ignores -B when choosing ld.\n>> ERROR: You will not be testing the new ld in many of the following tests.\n>> ERROR: It seems you will be testing /opt/gnu64/bin/ld instead.\n>> ERROR: ************************************************************************\n>>\n>> Is there a way to work around this or fix this?\n>>\n>> If I don't specify --with-ld when configuring, I end up with `ORIGINAL_LD_FOR_TARGET=\"/usr/ccs/bin/ld\"'\n>> (i.e., HP ld) in collect-ld even if HP ld is not in PATH or COMPILER_PATH. This causes\n>> HP ld to be used even though I configured with --with-gnu-ld.\n> \n> Testing binutils is always a special case for exactly that reason.\n> Here's what I do on Solaris:\n> \n> * Build and install Binutils into some prefix.\n> \n> * Prefix PATH with $prefix/bin, then build and install GCC into the\n> prefix *without* either --with-as or --with-ld. This way, GNU ld is\n> picked up and gcc/configure determines that it's not Solaris ld.\n> \n> The resulting gcc is used to build and test binutils trunk. Again, it\n> picks as/ld from PATH as above *and* allows gcc -B... to use the freshly\n> built gas and gld in the binutils tests.\n\nThis is exactly what I do but it doesn't work. I'm trying to build a compiler\nusing GNU ld that picks as/ld from PATH as above *and* allows gcc -B... The only\ndifference is I build this compiler with a compiler built to use GNU as and HP ld.\nI end up with a compiler with a hard-coded path to HP ld. Maybe I should try\nbuilding this compiler with a compiler that doesn't have a hard-coded path to\nHP load?\n\nIt seems to me that if the linker used by the boot compiler differs from that\nspecified in the configure command with --with-gnu-ld, configure shouldn't hard-code\nthe path of the boot linker in the new compiler.\n\nDave","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=lRDo2ynh;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=lRDo2ynh","sourceware.org;\n dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=bell.net","sourceware.org; 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This way, GNU ld is\n>> picked up and gcc/configure determines that it's not Solaris ld.\n>> \n>> The resulting gcc is used to build and test binutils trunk. Again, it\n>> picks as/ld from PATH as above *and* allows gcc -B... to use the freshly\n>> built gas and gld in the binutils tests.\n>\n> This is exactly what I do but it doesn't work. I'm trying to build a compiler\n> using GNU ld that picks as/ld from PATH as above *and* allows gcc -B... The only\n> difference is I build this compiler with a compiler built to use GNU as and HP ld.\n> I end up with a compiler with a hard-coded path to HP ld. Maybe I should try\n> building this compiler with a compiler that doesn't have a hard-coded path to\n> HP load?\n>\n> It seems to me that if the linker used by the boot compiler differs from that\n> specified in the configure command with --with-gnu-ld, configure shouldn't hard-code\n> the path of the boot linker in the new compiler.\n\noh, I've seen that on Solaris, too. For some unknown reason, the\ntoplevel Makefile passes LD= to all\nstages of a gcc bootstrap, which is completely bogus, of course, when\nyou're using a different linker flavour in the gcc to be built.\n\nUnless I'm mistaken, the switch to explicit linker flavor detection\n(check for Solaris ld resp. HP ld) should fix this, making the passed-in\nLD irrelvant. If so, my v2 patch should do the trick...\n\n\tRainer","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=HoStlD2y;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=HoStlD2y","sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none)\n header.from=CeBiTec.Uni-Bielefeld.DE","sourceware.org;\n spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de","server2.sourceware.org;\n arc=none smtp.remote-ip=129.70.160.84"],"Received":["from vm01.sourceware.org (vm01.sourceware.org [38.145.34.32])\n\t(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)\n\t key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384)\n\t(No client certificate requested)\n\tby legolas.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4g6br82jvjz1y04\n\tfor ; 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HP ld) should fix this, making the passed-in\n> LD irrelvant. If so, my v2 patch should do the trick...\n\nI have the \"Remove HAVE_GNU_AS\" and \"build: Remove $gnu_ld\" patches installed.\nHowever, there are still issues with linker flavor detection. 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HP ld) should fix this, making the passed-in\n>> LD irrelvant. If so, my v2 patch should do the trick...\n>\n> I have the \"Remove HAVE_GNU_AS\" and \"build: Remove $gnu_ld\" patches installed.\n> However, there are still issues with linker flavor detection. I configured build\n> with \"--with-gnu-as --with-gnu-ld\" but we still end up selecting the HP linker:\n>\n> checking for ld used by gcc... checking whether gcc supports -Wstrict-prototypes\n> ... /usr/ccs/bin/ld\n> checking if the linker (/usr/ccs/bin/ld) is GNU ld... no\n\nthis message is from the code from libtool ;-( As I said, this checks\n$LD, not the linker from PATH or --with-ld. It should be irrelevant for\nthe actual linker flavour detection in gcc/configure.ac.\n\nI'd like to understand and hopefully get rid of passing LD= from the toplevel *for every stage*, but am very\nwary of touching that code. It seems totally wrong, but I'm unsure\nabout the ramifications of removing it...\n\n> but auto-host.h has:\n>\n> /* Define to 1 if using GNU ld. */\n> #ifndef USED_FOR_TARGET\n> #define HAVE_GNU_LD 1\n> #endif\n\nWith the complete series, that part should be gone since nothing\nreferences HAVE_GNU_LD any longer.\n\n> It seems the current gcc linker overrides the first linker in the path.\n\nPlease try the series as a whole (with the v2 patches if present). The\nv2 one of \"build: Remove $gnu_ld\" is particularly important since it\nintroduces the hpux_ld detection.\n\nAfter the series, --with-gnu-{as,ld} should have no effect, unless the\nlibtool code gets in the way...\n\n\tRainer","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=jILjHxKA;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=2620:52:6:3111::32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=jILjHxKA","sourceware.org; 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The\n> v2 one of \"build: Remove $gnu_ld\" is particularly important since it\n> introduces the hpux_ld detection.\n\nah, I forgot: please start from current trunk. As I wrote in the cover\nmessage, the series depends on\n\n\tbuild: Check solaris_{as,ld} where appropriate\n\thttps://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2026-March/711289.html\n\nwhich is effectively part -1/6. I've committed it earlier today.\n\n\tRainer","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=fJTcbdWw;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=fJTcbdWw","sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none)\n header.from=CeBiTec.Uni-Bielefeld.DE","sourceware.org;\n spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de","server2.sourceware.org;\n arc=none smtp.remote-ip=129.70.160.84"],"Received":["from vm01.sourceware.org (vm01.sourceware.org [38.145.34.32])\n\t(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)\n\t key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384)\n\t(No client certificate requested)\n\tby legolas.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4g6jMx29tfz1yHZ\n\tfor ; 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then\n> + hpux_ld=yes\n> fi\n> ;;\n\nI think hpux_ld needs to be set to \"no\" when the HPUX linker isn't detected. Probably, the\nsame is needed for solaris_ld. I'm seeing issues with the setting of MASK_GNU_LD in the\ntarget_cpu_default (wrong link options).\n\nThe COMPILER_PATH environment variable contains the path \"/usr/ccs/bin\" in builds configured for\nGNU ld, probably because of the MD_EXEC_PREFIX defines in pa backend. I think these defines need to\nbe updated or removed so we don't accidentally select the wrong linker.\n\nDave","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=iEIgH5Ez;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=2620:52:6:3111::32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=iEIgH5Ez","sourceware.org;\n dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=bell.net","sourceware.org; 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The\n> v2 one of \"build: Remove $gnu_ld\" is particularly important since it\n> introduces the hpux_ld detection.\n\nYes, this seems to work apart from issues regarding hpux_ld and COMPILER_PATH\nnoted in separate mail.\n\nDave","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=EmnoEK7X;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=EmnoEK7X","sourceware.org;\n dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=bell.net","sourceware.org; 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Probably, the\n> same is needed for solaris_ld. I'm seeing issues with the setting of MASK_GNU_LD in the\n> target_cpu_default (wrong link options).\n\nyou're right, of course. Fixed locally, together with the message if some\nvendor linker is found.\n\nShould I define HAVE_HPUX_LD, too, to match HAVE_SOLARIS_LD (and later\nHAVE_AIX_LD) for symmetry and to allow checking the default in C code?\n\n> The COMPILER_PATH environment variable contains the path \"/usr/ccs/bin\" in builds configured for\n> GNU ld, probably because of the MD_EXEC_PREFIX defines in pa backend. I think these defines need to\n> be updated or removed so we don't accidentally select the wrong linker.\n\nI wondered about that. HP-UX is different from Solaris in this regard\nbecause it allows compile-time selection of the linker flavour. 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