[{"id":3684122,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/3684122/","msgid":"<5b9c3ae9-667e-4ec5-9c0e-f04844ffc064@bell.net>","list_archive_url":null,"date":"2026-04-29T15:05:16","subject":"Re: [PATCH 5/6] build: Remove $gnu_ld","submitter":{"id":8491,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/8491/","name":"John David Anglin","email":"dave.anglin@bell.net"},"content":"On 2026-04-29 10:05 a.m., Rainer Orth wrote:\n> With the removal of HAVE_GNU_LD, the gnu_ld variable used in config.gcc\n> etc. has few uses left, so this patch removes or replaces them:\n> \n> * In config.gcc:\n> \n> hppa*64*-*-hpux11*: According to install.tex, this configuration\n> requires the native HP linker, so the target_cpu_default setting for\n> gld is removed.\n\nThis isn't correct. The hppa*64*-*-hpux11* target can be configured\nto use GNU ld and I have posted some test results with this configuration\nin the past few months. The install.texi file says that GAS is required.\n\nGNU ld support is a work in progress. In the past months, I have fixed\nsupport for dynamic relocations. Still needed is stub support for long\npc-relative branches. Once this is in place, it should be possible to\nbootstrap gcc using GNU ld and have a fully 64-bit tool chain. The 64-bit\nHP ld application is actually 32-bit code.\n\nI have a bunch of gcc patches to improve support with GNU ld. Things have\nrotted somewhat since the original work to support GNU ld.\n\nUntil this work is done, we need GCC to support both GNU and HP ld.\n\nDave\n\n> \n> ia64*-*-elf*: This configuration is gld-only, so target_cpu_default is\n> set unconditionally.\n> \n> mips*-*-*: After the removal of IRIX support, MIPS configurations are\n> also gld-only, so target_cpu_default2 is set unconditionally.\n> \n> * In configure.ac, checks of gnu_ld are inverted to check solaris_ld\n> instead.\n> \n> * The gnu_ld checks for the --version-script and -soname options are\n> replaced by checking the ld --help output, matching what is done for\n> -Bstatic/-Bdynamic.\n> \n> The references to jit/Makefile.in are no longer true, thus removed.\n> \n> * The gnu_ld check for the --demangle option isn't necessary since the\n> test already checks ld --help output.\n> \n> Ok for trunk?\n> \n> \tRainer","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=Gp0qkZ6j;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=2620:52:6:3111::32; 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The hppa*64*-*-hpux11* target can be configured\n> to use GNU ld and I have posted some test results with this configuration\n> in the past few months. The install.texi file says that GAS is required.\n\nthat's what you get for believing install.texi:\n\n@heading hppa64-hp-hpux11*\n[...]\nOnly the HP linker is supported. Thus, it is best to explicitly\nconfigure the target with the @option{--with-ld=@dots{}} option.\n\n> GNU ld support is a work in progress. In the past months, I have fixed\n> support for dynamic relocations. Still needed is stub support for long\n> pc-relative branches. Once this is in place, it should be possible to\n> bootstrap gcc using GNU ld and have a fully 64-bit tool chain. The 64-bit\n> HP ld application is actually 32-bit code.\n>\n> I have a bunch of gcc patches to improve support with GNU ld. Things have\n> rotted somewhat since the original work to support GNU ld.\n>\n> Until this work is done, we need GCC to support both GNU and HP ld.\n\nIn that case, can we handle HP ld like Solaris ld, i.e. turn around the\nckeck and explicitly check if the configured linker is HP ld in\nconfigure.ac? That would be in line with what I outlined in the cover\nmessage.\n\nThanks.\n\tRainer","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=hkOtAKNx;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=hkOtAKNx","sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none)\n header.from=CeBiTec.Uni-Bielefeld.DE","sourceware.org;\n spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de","server2.sourceware.org;\n arc=none smtp.remote-ip=129.70.160.84"],"Received":["from vm01.sourceware.org (vm01.sourceware.org [38.145.34.32])\n\t(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)\n\t key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384)\n\t(No client certificate requested)\n\tby legolas.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4g5M4Y0kNSz1yHZ\n\tfor ; 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The hppa*64*-*-hpux11* target can be configured\n>> to use GNU ld and I have posted some test results with this configuration\n>> in the past few months. The install.texi file says that GAS is required.\n> \n> that's what you get for believing install.texi:\n> \n> @heading hppa64-hp-hpux11*\n> [...]\n> Only the HP linker is supported. Thus, it is best to explicitly\n> configure the target with the @option{--with-ld=@dots{}} option.\n\nI think I must be going blind...\n\nOnly the HP linker was supported for the 32-bit SOM target. I think the\ndocumentation got mixed up when support for the SOM target was disabled.\n\n>> GNU ld support is a work in progress. In the past months, I have fixed\n>> support for dynamic relocations. Still needed is stub support for long\n>> pc-relative branches. Once this is in place, it should be possible to\n>> bootstrap gcc using GNU ld and have a fully 64-bit tool chain. The 64-bit\n>> HP ld application is actually 32-bit code.\n>>\n>> I have a bunch of gcc patches to improve support with GNU ld. Things have\n>> rotted somewhat since the original work to support GNU ld.\n>>\n>> Until this work is done, we need GCC to support both GNU and HP ld.\n> \n> In that case, can we handle HP ld like Solaris ld, i.e. turn around the\n> ckeck and explicitly check if the configured linker is HP ld in\n> configure.ac? That would be in line with what I outlined in the cover\n> message.\n\nSounds good.\n\nDave","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=wU4UL3ds;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=2620:52:6:3111::32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=wU4UL3ds","sourceware.org;\n dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=bell.net","sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=bell.net","server2.sourceware.org;\n arc=none smtp.remote-ip=209.71.208.13"],"Received":["from vm01.sourceware.org (vm01.sourceware.org\n [IPv6:2620:52:6:3111::32])\n\t(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)\n\t key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384)\n\t(No client certificate requested)\n\tby legolas.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4g5N133CzYz1xqf\n\tfor ; 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charset=UTF-8","Content-Transfer-Encoding":"7bit","X-BeenThere":"gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org","X-Mailman-Version":"2.1.30","Precedence":"list","List-Id":"Gcc-patches mailing list ","List-Unsubscribe":",\n ","List-Archive":"","List-Post":"","List-Help":"","List-Subscribe":",\n ","Errors-To":"gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org"}},{"id":3684199,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/3684199/","msgid":"","list_archive_url":null,"date":"2026-04-29T18:03:07","subject":"Re: [PATCH 5/6] build: Remove $gnu_ld","submitter":{"id":4362,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/4362/","name":"Rainer Orth","email":"ro@CeBiTec.Uni-Bielefeld.DE"},"content":"Hi John,\n\n>> that's what you get for believing install.texi:\n>> \n>> @heading hppa64-hp-hpux11*\n>> [...]\n>> Only the HP linker is supported. Thus, it is best to explicitly\n>> configure the target with the @option{--with-ld=@dots{}} option.\n>\n> I think I must be going blind...\n>\n> Only the HP linker was supported for the 32-bit SOM target. I think the\n> documentation got mixed up when support for the SOM target was disabled.\n\nI've hit this myself: the Solaris sections in install.texi had\naccumulated so much cruft that they needed a complete rewrite ;-)\n\n>>> GNU ld support is a work in progress. In the past months, I have fixed\n>>> support for dynamic relocations. Still needed is stub support for long\n>>> pc-relative branches. Once this is in place, it should be possible to\n>>> bootstrap gcc using GNU ld and have a fully 64-bit tool chain. The 64-bit\n>>> HP ld application is actually 32-bit code.\n>>>\n>>> I have a bunch of gcc patches to improve support with GNU ld. Things have\n>>> rotted somewhat since the original work to support GNU ld.\n>>>\n>>> Until this work is done, we need GCC to support both GNU and HP ld.\n>> \n>> In that case, can we handle HP ld like Solaris ld, i.e. turn around the\n>> ckeck and explicitly check if the configured linker is HP ld in\n>> configure.ac? That would be in line with what I outlined in the cover\n>> message.\n>\n> Sounds good.\n\nCan you send me the output of ld -v (-V?) so I can add something along\nthe lines of solaris_ld? 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That would be in line with what I outlined in the cover\n>>> message.\n>> Sounds good.\n> Can you send me the output of ld -v (-V?) so I can add something along\n> the lines of solaris_ld? I'd call the variable hpux_ld to match (OS\n> instead of vendor), ok?\n\n/usr/ccs/bin/ld -v\nLPATH is : /usr/lib:/opt/langtools/lib\n/usr/ccs/bin/ld: Usage: /usr/ccs/bin/ld [options] [flags] files\nbash-5.1$ /usr/ccs/bin/ld -V\n92453-07 linker command s800.sgs ld PA64 B.11.72 REL 110608\n/usr/ccs/bin/ld: 92453-07 linker linker ld B.11.72 110608\n/usr/ccs/bin/ld: Usage: /usr/ccs/bin/ld [options] [flags] files\n\n> Given that you select the linker at compile time, there's no need for a\n> HAVE_HPUX_LD corresponding to HAVE_SOLARIS_LD, I believe.\n\nTheoretically, the linker can be changed at runtime with the -mhp-ld and\n-mgnu-ld compiler options.\n\nDave","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=GNcEw9AW;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; 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I believe '--' is not quite as portable.\n\n> \t(gcc_cv_ld_demangle): Don't check gnu_ld.\n\nThis looks good.\n\nThanks!","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=2620:52:6:3111::32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gnu.org","sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gnu.org","server2.sourceware.org;\n arc=none smtp.remote-ip=209.51.188.92"],"Received":["from vm01.sourceware.org (vm01.sourceware.org\n [IPv6:2620:52:6:3111::32])\n\t(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)\n\t key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384)\n\t(No client certificate requested)\n\tby legolas.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4g5gWL2NMmz1yGq\n\tfor ; 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Will\nsend a v2 patch later.\n\n>> \t<*-*-hpux*>: Assume gnu_ld=no.\n>\n> IIUC these need changes.\n\nI don't think so: unless I'm missing something, the gnu_ld=yes case\nshould already be handled by the previous $gcc_cv_ld --help check. The\ncurrent gnu_ld=no check should have been unnecessary. John?\n\n>> \t(gcc_cv_ld_version_script): Check ld --help for --version-script.\n>> \t(gcc_cv_ld_soname): Check ld --help for -soname.\n>\n> Please use 'grep -e' instead of 'grep --' to match patterns starting\n> with '-'; I believe '--' is not quite as portable.\n\nIn that case we should do this in a separate patch: all existing uses\nalready have unadorned grep -- '-...', while for egrep $EGREP is used\ninstead. In particular, at least Solaris /usr/bin/grep doesn't support\n-e, only /usr/xpg4/bin/grep does...\n\nThanks.\n\tRainer","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=Rz8LgvDV;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=Rz8LgvDV","sourceware.org; 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The\n> current gnu_ld=no check should have been unnecessary. John?\n\nIf a 64-bit hpux target has the GNU assembler, then it should also have GNU ld.\n\nOnly the 32-bit hppa*-*-hpux* target lacked GNU ld. This target is no longer supported.\nHowever, the default linker if not specified probably should remain HP ld on hppa*-*-hpux*\nas it is better supported. Not sure about ia64-*-hpux* but I believe this target no longer\nsupported.\n\nOn a slightly different issue, if I try to build gcc with GNU ld with a version\nof gcc built with HP ld, I have to explicity configure with --with-ld or export\nDEFAULT_LINKER=/opt/gnu64/bin/ld. This causes issues with the binutils ld testsuite:\n\nUsing /home/dave/gnu/binutils/src/ld/testsuite/config/default.exp as\ntool-and-target-specific interface file.\nERROR: ************************************************************************\nERROR: Your compiler apparently ignores -B when choosing ld.\nERROR: You will not be testing the new ld in many of the following tests.\nERROR: It seems you will be testing /opt/gnu64/bin/ld instead.\nERROR: ************************************************************************\n\nIs there a way to work around this or fix this?\n\nIf I don't specify --with-ld when configuring, I end up with `ORIGINAL_LD_FOR_TARGET=\"/usr/ccs/bin/ld\"'\n(i.e., HP ld) in collect-ld even if HP ld is not in PATH or COMPILER_PATH. This causes\nHP ld to be used even though I configured with --with-gnu-ld.\n\nDave","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=08vN+rgv;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=2620:52:6:3111::32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=bell.net header.i=@bell.net header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=selector1 header.b=08vN+rgv","sourceware.org;\n dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=bell.net","sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=bell.net","server2.sourceware.org;\n arc=none smtp.remote-ip=209.71.212.28"],"Received":["from vm01.sourceware.org (vm01.sourceware.org\n [IPv6:2620:52:6:3111::32])\n\t(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)\n\t key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (secp384r1) server-digest SHA384)\n\t(No client certificate requested)\n\tby legolas.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4g63V23ttvz1yGq\n\tfor ; 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Will\n> send a v2 patch later.\n\n>>> <*-*-hpux*>: Assume gnu_ld=no.\n>> \n>> IIUC these need changes.\n\n> I don't think so\n\n'k; it was my poor assumption.\n\n>>> (gcc_cv_ld_version_script): Check ld --help for --version-script.\n>>> (gcc_cv_ld_soname): Check ld --help for -soname.\n>> \n>> Please use 'grep -e' instead of 'grep --' to match patterns starting\n>> with '-'; I believe '--' is not quite as portable.\n\n> In that case we should do this in a separate patch: all existing uses\n> already have unadorned grep -- '-...', while for egrep $EGREP is used\n> instead. In particular, at least Solaris /usr/bin/grep doesn't support\n> -e, only /usr/xpg4/bin/grep does...\n\nI see we already have other uses of grep --, so let's keep on using\nthat. 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