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For example, if the Solaris linker gains support for them, \nthis will change the settings present in there.","headers":{"Return-Path":"<gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n secure) header.d=adacore.com header.i=@adacore.com header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=google header.b=egPfU74A;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n secure) header.d=adacore.com header.i=@adacore.com header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=google header.b=egPfU74A","sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none)\n header.from=adacore.com","sourceware.org; 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Therefore this patch\n>> replaces it with the result of a new configure test, HAVE_LD_AT_FILE.\n>\n> The code in link.c is meant to detect GNU LD though, not just the support of \n> response files.  For example, if the Solaris linker gains support for them, \n> this will change the settings present in there.\n\ntrue, but we can cross that bridge if we get there, which I seriously\ndoubt: I know of no such plans, but could ask if really necessary.\n\nApart from Solaris, the only cases that would be affected are VMS\n(highly unlikely to change at this point), __svr4__ && __i386__ (the\noriginal SysVr4/x86, I believe, if this still exists/is supported).\n\nI think this is an acceptable risk.\n\n\tRainer","headers":{"Return-Path":"<gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=fqlmpB0O;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=2620:52:6:3111::32; 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E.g., for HAVE_LD_AT_FILE, there would be a\nmatching check_effective_target_ld_at_file, i.e. an ld_at_file\neffective-target, that could be used here.\n\nThe current gas/gnu_ld removal patches intentionally ignore the\ntestsuite side of things.  The primary issue is that the testsuite\nsecond-guesses the gcc configuration with the potential (a high\nlikelyhood, in fact) for inconsistencies.  Since this isn't changed by\nmy current patches, this issue can be handled separately.\n\n> These look reasonable to me, but I can't approve them.\n\nThanks.\n\tRainer","headers":{"Return-Path":"<gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=SD2lEnOU;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=38.145.34.32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n unprotected) header.d=cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de header.i=@cebitec.uni-bielefeld.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20200306 header.b=SD2lEnOU","sourceware.org; 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And let's add \"other\" between \"all\" and \"systems\" in the sentence.","headers":{"Return-Path":"<gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Delivered-To":["patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"],"Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n secure) header.d=adacore.com header.i=@adacore.com header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=google header.b=dn/SXRW2;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=gcc.gnu.org\n (client-ip=2620:52:6:3111::32; helo=vm01.sourceware.org;\n envelope-from=gcc-patches-bounces~incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@gcc.gnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","sourceware.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key,\n secure) header.d=adacore.com header.i=@adacore.com header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=google header.b=dn/SXRW2","sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none)\n header.from=adacore.com","sourceware.org; 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