[{"id":3680250,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/3680250/","msgid":"<aeh0CV3UQw1quCXv@ashevche-desk.local>","date":"2026-04-22T07:08:57","subject":"Re: [PATCH net-deletions v2] net: remove unused ATM protocols and\n legacy ATM device drivers","submitter":{"id":46495,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/46495/","name":"Andy Shevchenko","email":"andriy.shevchenko@intel.com"},"content":"On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 09:18:44PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:\n> Remove the ATM protocol modules and PCI/SBUS ATM device drivers\n> that are no longer in active use.\n> \n> The ATM core protocol stack, PPPoATM, BR2684, and USB DSL modem\n> drivers (drivers/usb/atm/) are retained in-tree to maintain PPP\n> over ATM (PPPoA) and PPPoE-over-BR2684 support for DSL connections.\n> \n> Removed ATM protocol modules:\n>  - net/atm/clip.c - Classical IP over ATM (RFC 2225)\n>  - net/atm/lec.c - LAN Emulation Client (LANE)\n>  - net/atm/mpc.c, mpoa_caches.c, mpoa_proc.c - Multi-Protocol Over ATM\n> \n> Removed PCI/SBUS ATM device drivers (drivers/atm/):\n>  - adummy, atmtcp - software/testing ATM devices\n>  - eni - Efficient Networks ENI155P (OC-3, ~1995)\n>  - fore200e - FORE Systems 200E PCI/SBUS (OC-3, ~1999)\n>  - he - ForeRunner HE (OC-3/OC-12, ~2000)\n>  - idt77105 - IDT 77105 25 Mbps ATM PHY\n>  - idt77252 - IDT 77252 NICStAR II (OC-3, ~2000)\n>  - iphase - Interphase ATM PCI (OC-3/DS3/E3)\n>  - lanai - Efficient Networks Speedstream 3010\n>  - nicstar - IDT 77201 NICStAR (155/25 Mbps, ~1999)\n>  - solos-pci - Traverse Technologies ADSL2+ PCI\n>  - suni - PMC S/UNI SONET PHY library\n> \n> Also clean up references in:\n>  - net/bridge/ - remove ATM LANE hook (br_fdb_test_addr_hook,\n>    br_fdb_test_addr)\n>  - net/core/dev.c - remove br_fdb_test_addr_hook export\n>  - defconfig files - remove ATM driver config options\n> \n> The removed code is moved to an out-of-tree module package (mod-orphan).\n> \n> Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>\n> ---\n> v2:\n>  - keep BR2684\n>  - correct the claim that Traverse Technologies is defunct,\n>    I'm still deleting the solos driver, chances are nobody uses it.\n>    Easy enough to revert back in since core is still around.\n>    The guiding principle is to keep USB modems and delete\n>    the rest as USB ADSL2+ CPEs were most popular historically.\n> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/20260421021943.1295109-1-kuba@kernel.org\n> \n> CC: corbet@lwn.net\n> CC: skhan@linuxfoundation.org\n> CC: linux@armlinux.org.uk\n> CC: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de\n> CC: maddy@linux.ibm.com\n> CC: mpe@ellerman.id.au\n> CC: npiggin@gmail.com\n> CC: chleroy@kernel.org\n> CC: 3chas3@gmail.com\n> CC: razor@blackwall.org\n> CC: idosch@nvidia.com\n> CC: jani.nikula@intel.com\n> CC: mchehab+huawei@kernel.org\n> CC: tytso@mit.edu\n> CC: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au\n> CC: geert@linux-m68k.org\n> CC: ebiggers@kernel.org\n> CC: johannes.berg@intel.com\n> CC: jonathan.cameron@huawei.com\n> CC: kees@kernel.org\n> CC: kuniyu@google.com\n> CC: fourier.thomas@gmail.com\n> CC: andriy.shevchenko@intel.com\n> CC: rdunlap@infradead.org\n> CC: akpm@linux-foundation.org\n> CC: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org\n> CC: linux-mips@vger.kernel.org\n> CC: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org\n> CC: bridge@lists.linux.dev\n> CC: dwmw2@infradead.org\n> CC: herbert@gondor.apana.org.au\n\nAcked-by: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>\n\nP.S.\nSince it's almost removal and it will go via netdev tree (same tree you are\nmaintaining, I suppose) the -D would have a big help to review the changes\n(and not see removals at all, as 32k lines of one email is too much).","headers":{"Return-Path":"\n <linuxppc-dev+bounces-19929-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org"],"Delivered-To":"patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=intel.com header.i=@intel.com header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=Intel header.b=dRQ12TUB;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=lists.ozlabs.org\n (client-ip=2404:9400:21b9:f100::1; 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I worked on both USB ATM modems and on\nSolos, and the Solos is both the most modern and the only one I still\nactually have. And the only one we have native support for that could\never do full 24Mb/s ADSL2+, I believe.\n\nIf we drop it, OpenWrt will need to drop support for these, which I\nthink were quite popular at the time; there were a few UK resellers:\nhttps://openwrt.org/toh/traverse/geos1_1\n\nI still don't actually care *enough* to try to find an ADSL line I\ncould plug one into for testing though... :)","headers":{"Return-Path":"\n <linuxppc-dev+bounces-19946-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org"],"Delivered-To":"patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n secure) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=desiato.20200630 header.b=Cqn884bX;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=lists.ozlabs.org\n (client-ip=112.213.38.117; helo=lists.ozlabs.org;\n envelope-from=linuxppc-dev+bounces-19946-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","lists.ozlabs.org;\n arc=none smtp.remote-ip=\"2001:8b0:10b:1:d65d:64ff:fe57:4e05\"","lists.ozlabs.org;\n dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org","lists.ozlabs.org;\n spf=temperror (SPF Temporary Error: DNS Timeout)\n smtp.mailfrom=desiato.srs.infradead.org\n (client-ip=2001:8b0:10b:1:d65d:64ff:fe57:4e05; 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See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html","X-Spam-Status":"No, score=-2.4 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,\n\tDKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE\n\tautolearn=disabled version=4.0.1 OzLabs 8","X-Spam-Checker-Version":"SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on lists.ozlabs.org"}},{"id":3680626,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/3680626/","msgid":"<46196178-51e0-4744-9154-bbad895568d6@blackwall.org>","date":"2026-04-22T13:17:36","subject":"Re: [PATCH net-deletions v2] net: remove unused ATM protocols and\n legacy ATM device drivers","submitter":{"id":40558,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/40558/","name":"Nikolay Aleksandrov","email":"razor@blackwall.org"},"content":"On 22/04/2026 07:18, Jakub Kicinski wrote:\n> Remove the ATM protocol modules and PCI/SBUS ATM device drivers\n> that are no longer in active use.\n> \n> The ATM core protocol stack, PPPoATM, BR2684, and USB DSL modem\n> drivers (drivers/usb/atm/) are retained in-tree to maintain PPP\n> over ATM (PPPoA) and PPPoE-over-BR2684 support for DSL connections.\n> \n> Removed ATM protocol modules:\n>   - net/atm/clip.c - Classical IP over ATM (RFC 2225)\n>   - net/atm/lec.c - LAN Emulation Client (LANE)\n>   - net/atm/mpc.c, mpoa_caches.c, mpoa_proc.c - Multi-Protocol Over ATM\n> \n> Removed PCI/SBUS ATM device drivers (drivers/atm/):\n>   - adummy, atmtcp - software/testing ATM devices\n>   - eni - Efficient Networks ENI155P (OC-3, ~1995)\n>   - fore200e - FORE Systems 200E PCI/SBUS (OC-3, ~1999)\n>   - he - ForeRunner HE (OC-3/OC-12, ~2000)\n>   - idt77105 - IDT 77105 25 Mbps ATM PHY\n>   - idt77252 - IDT 77252 NICStAR II (OC-3, ~2000)\n>   - iphase - Interphase ATM PCI (OC-3/DS3/E3)\n>   - lanai - Efficient Networks Speedstream 3010\n>   - nicstar - IDT 77201 NICStAR (155/25 Mbps, ~1999)\n>   - solos-pci - Traverse Technologies ADSL2+ PCI\n>   - suni - PMC S/UNI SONET PHY library\n> \n> Also clean up references in:\n>   - net/bridge/ - remove ATM LANE hook (br_fdb_test_addr_hook,\n>     br_fdb_test_addr)\n>   - net/core/dev.c - remove br_fdb_test_addr_hook export\n>   - defconfig files - remove ATM driver config options\n> \n> The removed code is moved to an out-of-tree module package (mod-orphan).\n> \n> Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>\n> ---\n> v2:\n>   - keep BR2684\n>   - correct the claim that Traverse Technologies is defunct,\n>     I'm still deleting the solos driver, chances are nobody uses it.\n>     Easy enough to revert back in since core is still around.\n>     The guiding principle is to keep USB modems and delete\n>     the rest as USB ADSL2+ CPEs were most popular historically.\n> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/20260421021943.1295109-1-kuba@kernel.org\n> \n> CC: corbet@lwn.net\n> CC: skhan@linuxfoundation.org\n> CC: linux@armlinux.org.uk\n> CC: tsbogend@alpha.franken.de\n> CC: maddy@linux.ibm.com\n> CC: mpe@ellerman.id.au\n> CC: npiggin@gmail.com\n> CC: chleroy@kernel.org\n> CC: 3chas3@gmail.com\n> CC: 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|   21 -\n>   drivers/atm/zeprom.h                          |   35 -\n>   net/atm/lec.h                                 |  155 -\n>   net/atm/lec_arpc.h                            |   97 -\n>   net/atm/mpc.h                                 |   65 -\n>   net/atm/mpoa_caches.h                         |   99 -\n>   net/bridge/br_private.h                       |    4 -\n>   drivers/atm/adummy.c                          |  202 -\n>   drivers/atm/atmtcp.c                          |  513 ---\n>   drivers/atm/eni.c                             | 2321 ----------\n>   drivers/atm/fore200e.c                        | 3012 -------------\n>   drivers/atm/he.c                              | 2861 -------------\n>   drivers/atm/idt77105.c                        |  376 --\n>   drivers/atm/idt77252.c                        | 3797 -----------------\n>   drivers/atm/iphase.c                          | 3283 --------------\n>   drivers/atm/lanai.c                           | 2603 -----------\n>   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I worked on both USB ATM modems and on\n> Solos, and the Solos is both the most modern and the only one I still\n> actually have. And the only one we have native support for that could\n> ever do full 24Mb/s ADSL2+, I believe.\n> \n> If we drop it, OpenWrt will need to drop support for these, which I\n> think were quite popular at the time; there were a few UK resellers:\n> https://openwrt.org/toh/traverse/geos1_1\n> \n> I still don't actually care *enough* to try to find an ADSL line I\n> could plug one into for testing though... :)\n\nI'm inversely unconvinced. The argument has the ring of \"I still have\nthis HW lying around somewhere\", which is usually what prevents us from\nshedding all this dead weight code. I don't want to argue, so I'll keep it.\nBut if one \"fix\" arrives for this driver - it's going :(","headers":{"Return-Path":"\n <linuxppc-dev+bounces-19986-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org"],"Delivered-To":"patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=k20201202 header.b=prvyABly;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=lists.ozlabs.org\n (client-ip=2404:9400:21b9:f100::1; helo=lists.ozlabs.org;\n envelope-from=linuxppc-dev+bounces-19986-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","lists.ozlabs.org;\n arc=none smtp.remote-ip=\"2600:3c04:e001:324:0:1991:8:25\"","lists.ozlabs.org;\n dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=kernel.org","lists.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=k20201202 header.b=prvyABly;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","lists.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=kernel.org\n (client-ip=2600:3c04:e001:324:0:1991:8:25; 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I worked on both USB ATM modems and on\n> Solos, and the Solos is both the most modern and the only one I still\n> actually have. And the only one we have native support for that could\n> ever do full 24Mb/s ADSL2+, I believe.\n> \n> If we drop it, OpenWrt will need to drop support for these, which I\n> think were quite popular at the time; there were a few UK resellers:\n> https://openwrt.org/toh/traverse/geos1_1\n> \n> I still don't actually care *enough* to try to find an ADSL line I\n> could plug one into for testing though... :)\n\n\nI have 3 boards lying around if anyone wants them.","headers":{"Return-Path":"\n <linuxppc-dev+bounces-19991-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org"],"Delivered-To":"patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=lists.ozlabs.org\n (client-ip=2404:9400:21b9:f100::1; helo=lists.ozlabs.org;\n envelope-from=linuxppc-dev+bounces-19991-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","lists.ozlabs.org; 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I worked on both USB ATM modems and on\n> > Solos, and the Solos is both the most modern and the only one I still\n> > actually have. And the only one we have native support for that could\n> > ever do full 24Mb/s ADSL2+, I believe.\n> > \n> > If we drop it, OpenWrt will need to drop support for these, which I\n> > think were quite popular at the time; there were a few UK resellers:\n> > https://openwrt.org/toh/traverse/geos1_1\n> > \n> > I still don't actually care *enough* to try to find an ADSL line I\n> > could plug one into for testing though... :)\n> \n> I have 3 boards lying around if anyone wants them.\n\nThe problem as I understand it is in one's willing to maintain and\nsupport that driver while doing regular testing...","headers":{"Return-Path":"\n <linuxppc-dev+bounces-20000-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org"],"Delivered-To":"patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=intel.com header.i=@intel.com header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=Intel header.b=Cl2Kz1tO;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=lists.ozlabs.org\n (client-ip=2404:9400:21b9:f100::1; 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I worked on both USB ATM modems and on\n> > > Solos, and the Solos is both the most modern and the only one I still\n> > > actually have. And the only one we have native support for that could\n> > > ever do full 24Mb/s ADSL2+, I believe.\n> > > \n> > > If we drop it, OpenWrt will need to drop support for these, which I\n> > > think were quite popular at the time; there were a few UK resellers:\n> > > https://openwrt.org/toh/traverse/geos1_1\n> > > \n> > > I still don't actually care *enough* to try to find an ADSL line I\n> > > could plug one into for testing though... :)\n> > \n> > I have 3 boards lying around if anyone wants them.\n> \n> The problem as I understand it is in one's willing to maintain and\n> support that driver while doing regular testing...\n\nSure, but that's true of the usb-atm devices too, and I threw all of\n*those* in the skip already. :)\n\nI'll be more surprised if anyone is actively using one of those, than I\nwould be if someone is using Solos. *If* we are going to keep the USB\ndevices, I'd suggest it makes sense to keep Solos too.","headers":{"Return-Path":"\n <linuxppc-dev+bounces-20004-incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@lists.ozlabs.org>","X-Original-To":["incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org"],"Delivered-To":"patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n secure) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=desiato.20200630 header.b=XwhgW7tG;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=lists.ozlabs.org\n (client-ip=112.213.38.117; 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