[{"id":3675416,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/3675416/","msgid":"<adffHdctAKEsb3IG@fedora>","list_archive_url":null,"date":"2026-04-09T17:17:34","subject":"Re: [PATCH 12/14] migration: Fix calculation of expected_downtime to\n take VFIO info","submitter":{"id":89058,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/89058/","name":"Juraj Marcin","email":"jmarcin@redhat.com"},"content":"On 2026-04-08 12:55, Peter Xu wrote:\n> QEMU will provide an expected downtime for the whole system during\n> migration, by remembering the total dirty RAM that we synced the last time,\n> divides the estimated switchover bandwidth.\n> \n> That was flawed when VFIO is taking into account: consider there is a VFIO\n> GPU device that contains GBs of data to migrate during stop phase.  Those\n> will not be accounted in this math.\n> \n> Fix it by updating dirty_bytes_last_sync properly only when we go to the\n> next iteration, rather than hide this update in the RAM code.  Meanwhile,\n> fetch the total (rather than RAM-only) portion of dirty bytes, so as to\n> include GPU device states too.\n> \n> Update the comment of the field to reflect its new meaning.\n> \n> Now after this change, the expected-downtime to be read from query-migrate\n> should be very accurate even with VFIO devices involved.\n> \n> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>\n> ---\n>  migration/migration-stats.h |  8 +++-----\n>  migration/migration.c       | 11 ++++++++---\n>  migration/ram.c             |  1 -\n>  3 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)\n> \n\nReviewed-by: Juraj Marcin <jmarcin@redhat.com>","headers":{"Return-Path":"<qemu-devel-bounces+incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@nongnu.org>","X-Original-To":"incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","Delivered-To":"patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (1024-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=mimecast20190719 header.b=IQ/VIsUZ;\n\tdkim=pass (2048-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=google header.b=ZpZGMaX8;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=nongnu.org\n (client-ip=209.51.188.17; helo=lists.gnu.org;\n envelope-from=qemu-devel-bounces+incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@nongnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)"],"Received":["from lists.gnu.org (lists1p.gnu.org [209.51.188.17])\n\t(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))\n\t(No client certificate requested)\n\tby legolas.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fs68827qTz1xy1\n\tfor <incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org>; Fri, 10 Apr 2026 03:18:00 +1000 (AEST)","from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org)\n\tby lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1)\n\t(envelope-from <qemu-devel-bounces@nongnu.org>)\n\tid 1wAt0j-0006EX-CU; Thu, 09 Apr 2026 13:17:45 -0400","from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10])\n by lists1p.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)\n (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jmarcin@redhat.com>)\n id 1wAt0h-0006Ct-1x\n for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2026 13:17:43 -0400","from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.133.124])\n by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)\n (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <jmarcin@redhat.com>)\n id 1wAt0f-0001WH-Lh\n for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2026 13:17:42 -0400","from mail-wm1-f71.google.com (mail-wm1-f71.google.com\n [209.85.128.71]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS\n (version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id\n us-mta-342-4rNMfa0xNFO5RdF9fdNyrw-1; Thu, 09 Apr 2026 13:17:39 -0400","by mail-wm1-f71.google.com with SMTP id\n 5b1f17b1804b1-486fa07f2bbso6212065e9.2\n for <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>; Thu, 09 Apr 2026 10:17:39 -0700 (PDT)","from fedora (nat-88-212-17-233.antik.sk. 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Szmigiero\" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>, Daniel P\n\t=?utf-8?b?LiBCZXJyYW5nw6k=?= <berrange@redhat.com>,\n  Zhiyi Guo <zhguo@redhat.com>, Prasad Pandit <ppandit@redhat.com>,\n  Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>, Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,\n\t=?utf-8?q?C=C3=A9dric?= Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>,\n Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,  Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,\n Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>","Subject":"Re: [PATCH 12/14] migration: Fix calculation of expected_downtime to\n take VFIO info","Message-ID":"<adffHdctAKEsb3IG@fedora>","References":"<20260408165559.157108-1-peterx@redhat.com>\n <20260408165559.157108-13-peterx@redhat.com>","MIME-Version":"1.0","Content-Type":"text/plain; charset=us-ascii","Content-Disposition":"inline","In-Reply-To":"<20260408165559.157108-13-peterx@redhat.com>","Received-SPF":"pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=jmarcin@redhat.com;\n helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com","X-Spam_score_int":"-25","X-Spam_score":"-2.6","X-Spam_bar":"--","X-Spam_report":"(-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.54,\n DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1,\n RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=0.001,\n RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001,\n SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no","X-Spam_action":"no action","X-BeenThere":"qemu-devel@nongnu.org","X-Mailman-Version":"2.1.29","Precedence":"list","List-Id":"qemu development <qemu-devel.nongnu.org>","List-Unsubscribe":"<https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/options/qemu-devel>,\n <mailto:qemu-devel-request@nongnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>","List-Archive":"<https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel>","List-Post":"<mailto:qemu-devel@nongnu.org>","List-Help":"<mailto:qemu-devel-request@nongnu.org?subject=help>","List-Subscribe":"<https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel>,\n <mailto:qemu-devel-request@nongnu.org?subject=subscribe>","Errors-To":"qemu-devel-bounces+incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@nongnu.org","Sender":"qemu-devel-bounces+incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@nongnu.org"}},{"id":3675532,"web_url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/comment/3675532/","msgid":"<87y0iv4w3b.fsf@suse.de>","list_archive_url":null,"date":"2026-04-09T22:17:44","subject":"Re: [PATCH 12/14] migration: Fix calculation of expected_downtime\n to take VFIO info","submitter":{"id":85343,"url":"http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/api/people/85343/","name":"Fabiano Rosas","email":"farosas@suse.de"},"content":"Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:\n\n> QEMU will provide an expected downtime for the whole system during\n> migration, by remembering the total dirty RAM that we synced the last time,\n> divides the estimated switchover bandwidth.\n>\n> That was flawed when VFIO is taking into account: consider there is a VFIO\n> GPU device that contains GBs of data to migrate during stop phase.  Those\n> will not be accounted in this math.\n>\n> Fix it by updating dirty_bytes_last_sync properly only when we go to the\n> next iteration, rather than hide this update in the RAM code.  Meanwhile,\n> fetch the total (rather than RAM-only) portion of dirty bytes, so as to\n> include GPU device states too.\n>\n> Update the comment of the field to reflect its new meaning.\n>\n> Now after this change, the expected-downtime to be read from query-migrate\n> should be very accurate even with VFIO devices involved.\n>\n> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>\n> ---\n>  migration/migration-stats.h |  8 +++-----\n>  migration/migration.c       | 11 ++++++++---\n>  migration/ram.c             |  1 -\n>  3 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)\n>\n> diff --git a/migration/migration-stats.h b/migration/migration-stats.h\n> index 326ddb0088..1447316802 100644\n> --- a/migration/migration-stats.h\n> +++ b/migration/migration-stats.h\n> @@ -31,11 +31,9 @@\n>   */\n>  typedef struct {\n>      /*\n> -     * Number of bytes that were dirty last time that we synced with\n> -     * the guest memory.  We use that to calculate the downtime.  As\n> -     * the remaining dirty amounts to what we know that is still dirty\n> -     * since last iteration, not counting what the guest has dirtied\n> -     * since we synchronized bitmaps.\n> +     * Number of bytes that were reported dirty after the lastest\n\ntypo: latest\n\n> +     * system-wise synchronization on dirty information.  It is used to\n\ns/on/of/ ?\n\nI can fix these at merge time.","headers":{"Return-Path":"<qemu-devel-bounces+incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@nongnu.org>","X-Original-To":"incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org","Delivered-To":"patchwork-incoming@legolas.ozlabs.org","Authentication-Results":["legolas.ozlabs.org;\n\tdkim=pass (1024-bit key;\n unprotected) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.a=rsa-sha256\n header.s=susede2_rsa header.b=PVoZScHM;\n\tdkim=pass header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.a=ed25519-sha256\n header.s=susede2_ed25519 header.b=g6LXZXGn;\n\tdkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de\n header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=susede2_rsa header.b=PVoZScHM;\n\tdkim=neutral header.d=suse.de header.i=@suse.de header.a=ed25519-sha256\n header.s=susede2_ed25519 header.b=g6LXZXGn;\n\tdkim-atps=neutral","legolas.ozlabs.org;\n spf=pass (sender SPF authorized) smtp.mailfrom=nongnu.org\n (client-ip=209.51.188.17; helo=lists.gnu.org;\n envelope-from=qemu-devel-bounces+incoming=patchwork.ozlabs.org@nongnu.org;\n receiver=patchwork.ozlabs.org)","smtp-out1.suse.de;\n dkim=pass header.d=suse.de header.s=susede2_rsa header.b=PVoZScHM;\n dkim=pass header.d=suse.de header.s=susede2_ed25519 header.b=g6LXZXGn"],"Received":["from lists.gnu.org (lists1p.gnu.org [209.51.188.17])\n\t(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))\n\t(No client certificate requested)\n\tby legolas.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fsDpg64Qjz1y05\n\tfor <incoming@patchwork.ozlabs.org>; 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